EMR Class 170 updates

[RKynaston]

Can anyone confirm which units Class 170/5s have been sub-leased from EMR back to WMT? I know 533 and 517 are as I have seen them in EMR purple, but WMT branding, I am assuming from the above comments there are others too?

 

[43102EMR]

Can anyone confirm which units Class 170/5s have been sub-leased from EMR back to WMT? I know 533 and 517 are as I have seen them in EMR purple, but WMT branding, I am assuming from the above comments there are others too?

All of the ones in the West Midlands are subleased from EMR back to WMT - if you’re talking about repainted ones, they are 504, 509, 517 and 533.

 

[cnjb8]

I apologise because this has been mentioned but are the 171s still coming from Southern with the TfW 170s or is it just the Wales 170s arriving now?

 

[Chrisgr31]

I apologise because this has been mentioned but are the 171s still coming from Southern with the TfW 170s or is it just the Wales 170s arriving now?

It’s not happening anytime soon if at all. The 171s are not leaving Southern until a replacement is sorted and there is no indication that will be happening. Indeed they are looking are looking at electrification so the diesels will still be needed for 7 years?

 

[cnjb8]

It’s not happening anytime soon if at all. The 171s are not leaving Southern until a replacement is sorted and there is no indication that will be happening. Indeed they are looking are looking at electrification so the diesels will still be needed for 7 years?

Thank you

 

[RKynaston]

All of the ones in the West Midlands are subleased from EMR back to WMT - if you’re talking about repainted ones, they are 504, 509, 517 and 533.

Thanks!

 

[swt_passenger]

It’s not happening anytime soon if at all. The 171s are not leaving Southern until a replacement is sorted and there is no indication that will be happening. Indeed they are looking are looking at electrification so the diesels will still be needed for 7 years?

I suspect it’s about time we all collectively ignored the 171s. Water under the bridge as far as a move north is concerned.

 

[WesternLancer]

Picked up an EMR 170 yesterday evening. I wasn't familiar with the style of the interior in terms of red carpet, grey upholstery, and which TOC would have previously had it, but it was notably clean, unworn and smart (compared with the ex Scotrail and Ex West Mids/LMR(?) units). It was a 2 car unit. Must have been refitted no so long ago int he great scheme of things.

Smartest interior of any EMR fleet I have been in recently (and that includes the Meridien fleet).

 

[LowLevel]

Picked up an EMR 170 yesterday evening. I wasn't familiar with the style of the interior in terms of red carpet, grey upholstery, and which TOC would have previously had it, but it was notably clean, unworn and smart (compared with the ex Scotrail and Ex West Mids/LMR(?) units). It was a 2 car unit. Must have been refitted no so long ago int he great scheme of things.

Smartest interior of any EMR fleet I have been in recently (and that includes the Meridien fleet).

170273, it had a refurb whilst at Greater Anglia not very long ago, before it's brief stay in Wales.

 

[WesternLancer]

170273, it had a refurb whilst at Greater Anglia not very long ago, before it's brief stay in Wales.

Thanks @LowLevel - interesting to know.

 

[RealTrains07]

Just seen a freshly branded EMR 170/5 speed through stafford joined with an XC 170 heading back to Tysley. Didnt catch the number though.

 

[warwickshire]

Just seen a freshly branded EMR 170/5 speed through stafford joined with an XC 170 heading back to Tysley. Didnt catch the number though.

I did 170506 nice and freshly painted.
However don't know the number off the xc cross country 170 myself either.
However 170506 was the east Midlands railways one. On the rear at leamington Spa going back to tyseley Depot.

 

[Ryry]

I for one found the class 170 rather comfy and Smooth on the matlock branch. Yes a bit bouncy but that's more down to the track

 

[liamf656]

170503 was booked onto the 07:57 Norwich to Nottingham (158 takes over to Liverpool), I believe this was to cover a failed Sprinter but now the journey is instead cancelled (restarted from Nottingham). This would have been the first 170 on the Norwich service had it actually ran

 

[43102EMR]

170503 was booked onto the 07:57 Norwich to Nottingham (158 takes over to Liverpool), I believe this was to cover a failed Sprinter but now the journey is instead cancelled (restarted from Nottingham). This would have been the first 170 on the Norwich service had it actually ran

It’s a shame crew aren’t trained up to Liverpool on the 170s - would be a huge upgrade over the Sprinters used on that route, which IMO is the best route the 170s could be used on at present with EMR instead of local stoppers.

 

[Wyrleybart]

It’s a shame crew aren’t trained up to Liverpool on the 170s - would be a huge upgrade over the Sprinters used on that route, which IMO is the best route the 170s could be used on at present with EMR instead of local stoppers.

I would say the most important route for the EMR 170s is the thrash up and down Stoke bank at 100mph - staying away from the high flyers

 

[D.K.TAYLOR]

170508 and 170504 are on the 12-00 Birmingham Shrewsbury today both in EMR Livery

 

[FLIRTfan18]

It seems 170510 went off to Crewe today. I had 507 down as already being there, so maybe another purple train arriving in the West Midlands very soon?

 

[43055]

It seems 170510 went off to Crewe today. I had 507 down as already being there, so maybe another purple train arriving in the West Midlands very soon?

Might of come back yesterday as there is a return path in RTT:
Realtime Trains - 527I 1633 Crewe C.S. (L&Nwr Site) to Tyseley L.M.D.

 

[Liam L]

Anyone know if 170512 with EMR yet? Thanks in advance

 

[43055]

Anyone know if 170512 with EMR yet? Thanks in advance

Not yet.

 

[FLIRTfan18]

Just to confirm 507 is back in the Midlands in purple, on the 12:41 SHR-BHM this afternoon

 

[SteveyBee131]

A reliable source says that 170532 worked 1L08 Nottingham to Norwich today. If my sums are right, it should be on 1R78 back just now.

 

[LowLevel]

A reliable source says that 170532 worked 1L08 Nottingham to Norwich today. If my sums are right, it should be on 1R78 back just now.

Temporarily that service is booked for a 2 car 170 to allow traction knowledge retention for Norwich traincrew.

 

[greyman42]

When will the 170's be working the Doncaster to Peterborough services?

 

[mtmikethom]

Don’t know which unit but is was a 170 today on that Norwich - Liverpool service

I saw

When will the 170's be working the Doncaster to Peterborough services?

I think saw a 170 in platform 1 at Peterborough a few days ago at about 3pm so perhaps they already are.

 

[43055]

When will the 170's be working the Doncaster to Peterborough services?

Before the timetable reduction there was a 3 car diagram for part of the day between Lincoln and Peterborough.

 

[High Dyke]

A reliable source says that 170532 worked 1L08 Nottingham to Norwich today. If my sums are right, it should be on 1R78 back just now.

It was a 170 on either Monday or Tuesday, at the beginning of this week.

 

[Jozhua]

It’s a shame crew aren’t trained up to Liverpool on the 170s - would be a huge upgrade over the Sprinters used on that route, which IMO is the best route the 170s could be used on at present with EMR instead of local stoppers.

Completely agree - I think the bid was made without an understanding of the actual operational characteristics of 170s. Looked great on paper, but in reality they don't do so great

 

[Pippy1505]

It was a 170 on either Monday or Tuesday, at the beginning of this week.

Will be a 170 until further notice - so Norwich traincrew can maintain their competence on 170s