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Currently airing a debate about NATO but i get where you are coming from. It can get rather repetitive at times.
The problem with any news/opinion channel is they have to keep their audience entertained and informed. They have 18 hours to fill today (minus time for ads),there is only so much subject matter that will do that. By and large foreign news is a no-no (excepting the America election), wars, certainly the two that are taking place at the moment only in brief reports (plus other sources will be on the ground), entertainment - only if viewers know who the people are, sport - largely catered for elsewhere. even some home news may not keep viewers tuned in - items like education, business, science,

They are stuck with a few core topics, political parties led by pretty bland characters, they end up using the same potentially controversial topics over and over again. I struggle with listening to news programmes for more than half an hour, hence I gave up on GB News ages ago, whatever the political bias it has.
 
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In December they launched GB News America, which is why they like to use so many right-wing talking points that are commonly talked about in the USA. Same presenters but talking to Republicans about immigration, trans and all the same things - and of course, Meghan Markle.

I have no idea why they think so many viewers care about her. Well, obviously I do know, but you know what I mean.

The backers of the channel aren't worried about viewing figures or revenue to a degree; it's a way of spreading a narrative and pretending they're the voice of the 'silent majority' so people assume they're more powerful and influential than they are. Come any election time, you see how popular they really are as deposits are lost and there are calls of 'witch-hunts' and 'election rigging'.
 

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Ofcom has launched an investigation into People’s Forum: The Prime Minister on GB News under our due impartiality rules.

We have received around 500 complaints about the programme which aired on GB News on 12 February 2024.

We are investigating under Rules 5.11 and 5.12 of the Broadcasting Code which provide additional due impartiality requirements for programmes dealing with matters of major political controversy and major matters relating to current public policy. Specifically, Rules 5.11 and 5.12 require that an appropriately wide range of significant views must be included and given due weight in such programmes, or in clearly linked and timely programmes.

Ofcom getting involved again, let's see if they actually do something more than a slap on the wrist.

An Ofcom investigation today concluded that an episode of Dan Wootton Tonight on GB News broke broadcasting rules designed to protect viewers from offensive content.

Comments made during the programme by Laurence Fox targeting female political journalist, Ava Evans, prompted 8,867 complaints to Ofcom. Viewers expressed concerns that his remarks were sexist, misogynistic and offensive.

In line with the legal right to freedom of expression, broadcasters are free to include potentially offensive material in their programmes under our rules. But, in doing so, such content must be justified and put into sufficient context to ensure audiences are protected.

We launched an investigation to determine whether the programme, which aired on 26 September 2023, complied with Rule 2.3 of the Broadcasting Code.

What we found
Our broadcasting standards experts carefully analysed the content as well as formal representations from GB News and Dan Wootton, in line with our investigation procedures.

We found that Mr Fox’s comments constituted a highly personal attack on Ms Evans and were potentially highly offensive to viewers. They reduced her contribution to a broadcast discussion on mental health - in her professional capacity as a political journalist - to a judgment on whether she, or women like her who publicly expressed their political opinions, were sexually desirable to men.

As such, we considered that Mr Fox’s comments were degrading and demeaning both to Ms Evans and women generally and were clearly and unambiguously misogynistic.

In our view, Mr Wootton’s reaction and limited challenge in response did not mitigate the potential for offence. Rather, they exacerbated it by contributing to the narrative in which a woman’s value was judged by her physical appearance.

Our investigation revealed that Mr Wootton’s and GB News’ account of why an apology was not read out differed. However, we did not consider it necessary to explore these differing accounts. In any event, no apology was made after the interview with Mr Fox in the remainder of the two-hour programme - nor were any other editorial techniques used to address the potential for offence. We considered this indicated that GB News’ editorial control of this live programme had been inadequate.

Our decision
In reaching our decision, we have taken careful account of broadcasters’ and audiences’ right to freedom of expression, and considered a range of relevant contextual factors.

Taking into particular account that Mr Fox’s misogynistic comments were directed at an individual, went largely unchallenged by the presenter, and the absence of any apology in the programme itself, we do not consider that the significant potential for offence was justified by the context in this case. We have therefore found the programme in breach of Rule 2.3.

In light of the circumstances of this case, we have significant concerns about GB News’ editorial control of its live output. We are requiring GB News to provide further detailed information about its compliance practices in this area for our consideration, and requesting it attends a meeting at our offices to discuss this.

Huh, that's not surprising. Let's hope Ofcom actually do something.
 
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Ofcom has launched an investigation into People’s Forum: The Prime Minister on GB News under our due impartiality rules.

We have received around 500 complaints about the programme which aired on GB News on 12 February 2024.

We are investigating under Rules 5.11 and 5.12 of the Broadcasting Code which provide additional due impartiality requirements for programmes dealing with matters of major political controversy and major matters relating to current public policy. Specifically, Rules 5.11 and 5.12 require that an appropriately wide range of significant views must be included and given due weight in such programmes, or in clearly linked and timely programmes.
How can an interview with a Prime Minister be impartial? Clearly the PM had an hour to set out his policies and views, and it is unreasonable to expect him to espouse opposing views. If I recall correctly, an invite was issued to Starmer to have a similar programme. If it takes place, will that also be deemed to be impartial?
 

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How can an interview with a Prime Minister be impartial? Clearly the PM had an hour to set out his policies and views, and it is unreasonable to expect him to espouse opposing views. If I recall correctly, an invite was issued to Starmer to have a similar programme. If it takes place, will that also be deemed to be impartial?

Wasn’t there an accusation that the ‘representative’ audience had actually been filtered so as to largely, if not entirely, consist of people who had attitudes and would produce questions that would give Sunak a soft ride. Although one or two more hostile voices may have slipped the net.
 

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Wasn’t there an accusation that the ‘representative’ audience had actually been filtered so as to largely, if not entirely, consist of people who had attitudes and would produce questions that would give Sunak a soft ride. Although one or two more hostile voices may have slipped the net.
A bit like BBC's Question Time audience then, but with opposite views :D
 

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A bit like BBC's Question Time audience then, but with opposite views :D

I think the difference with Question Time is that when they filter the audience to produce a bias they make it clear. GBeebies seems to have tried to pretend that the audience was random or even-handed when it wasn’t.
 

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Have to wonder who all these people are that are running / squealing to Ofcom seeing as apparently no one watches GBN!
 

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Have to wonder who all these people are that are running / squealing to Ofcom seeing as apparently no one watches GBN!
In this day and age, you don't have to watch a programme to know what happened. Key clips appear all over social media, and other users online describe what happened on certain shows. These are usually enough. Then of course there's "follow the herd", complaints occurring just because others are complaining, which is probably as old as TV complaints' procedures go and probably is present plenty with GB News stuff.

Besides, in the case of the Wootton-Fox row, they got suspended/sacked for it by GBN themselves, so it was clearly serious enough without Ofcom involvement there.
 

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Wooton / Fox got what they deserved, especially the latter but these complaints to Ofcom about the channel are often ridiculous. Farage and his 'Don't Kill Cash' campaign was put under scrutiny by this body. Where does it end? Farage has hosted 550 editions of his show and not one single complaint to Ofcom has been upheld and i imagine there has been a shed load of them.. I simply put them down to the 'easily offended' brigade that are among us these days in such large numbers.
 

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Where does it end? Farage has hosted 550 editions of his show and not one single complaint to Ofcom has been upheld and i imagine there has been a shed load of them..

A casual browse of Ofcom's 2023 complaint data doesn't suggest too many were complaining about Farage's shows in comparison to the likes of complaints for Love Island, I'm A Celeb or even Gregg Wallace. However, no numbers that I can find that specifically relate to the July 7th episode against which Ofcom specifically ruled. (ofcom.org.uk)

An Ofcom investigation (PDF, 490.8 KB) has today found that an episode of The Live Desk, which aired on GB News on 7 July 2023, broke broadcasting due impartiality rules.

As to them trying to figure out whether Farage is a politician or otherwise..it's pointless. Even more than before he's just a tobacco-stained chancer cosplaying as a politician, as such he certainly shouldn't be subject to Ofcom's 'don't do that, stop otherwise I'll shout stop again' toothless mumbles.
 

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Farage and his 'Don't Kill Cash' campaign was put under scrutiny by this body. Where does it end?
When the broadcasters involved actually start abiding by the Broadcasting Code. If they don't agree with the code, then they should lobby Parliament to change it - not keep complaining that they're getting told off for not following the rules that everyone else has to.

With regards to the "Don't Kill Cash", both GB News and Greatest Hits Radio got in trouble for this at roughly the same time. The operators of such services are not permitted under the code to express opinions on "matters of political or industrial controversy or current public policy". It's not the presenters who are prevented, it's the broadcasters themselves - Nigel Farage is allowed to - GB News isn't. If they were interviewing Nigel Farage about his personal campaign, that would be ok - for them to launch the campaign as a station wide activity is not permitted.

Ofcom said:
Rule 5.4 of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code requires all broadcasters to ensure that their programmes – whatever their genre – exclude all expressions of the views and opinions of the person providing the service on matters of political and industrial controversy or current public policy. This reflects the statutory requirements in the Communications Act 2003 as set by Parliament.

Ofcom guidance explains the 'person providing the service' is the licensee, the company officers and persons with an editorial responsibility for the service – rather than the individual presenters or guests that appear in the broadcaster’s programming.
 

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It's astonishing to note how GB News has managed to keep going. New dentures are urgently required for Ofcom.
As well as Ofcom being an arguably poor regulator, it's only been kept going by pumping lots of money in to keep it afloat. As this report from the FT today reveals, it's nowhere near profitable, and I can see the plug being pulled in the not too distant future if this sort of intervention is needed to keep operating:


GB News owner All Perspectives, the group backed by hedge fund tycoon Paul Marshall, has been forced to provide a further £41mn in funding to cover operating costs at the lossmaking broadcaster.

GB News revealed a pre-tax loss of £42.4mn in its 2022/23 accounts published at Companies House on Tuesday, a sharp increase in losses from £30.8mn the year before.
 

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Why not ask the 'silent majority' to donate?

Oh, yes, they don't exist.

Now Talk TV is giving up and going back to online only, and GB News really isn't likely to have had many sign-ups to its online paywall service - I do wonder what they'll do? If they decide to broadcast exclusively via X or other platforms, I assume they'll be outside the remit of Ofcom?
 

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As this report from the FT today reveals, it's nowhere near profitable, and I can see the plug being pulled in the not too distant future if this sort of intervention is needed to keep operating:
Completely agree. This on the day that even Murdoch up funding his TalkTV baby and turns it into an online-only presence.
 

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The people running GB News will be taking a nice salary, and a lot of the cash injections will be wealthy donors who want to push right wing narratives to try and influence Government.

Talk TV was never as blatant and appeared to actually want to appeal to different audiences, but failed miserably.

GB News was/is ridiculously amateurish but still manages to repeat the usual culture wars stuff ad nauseum, which is possibly worth £45m of losses per annum.
 

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Dan Wootton has confirmed he has left GBNews and will not be returning to the station.

Statement from Dan’s social media:
I have left GB News to launch my own independent Outspoken platform which will from later this year feature a brand new daily news and opinion show that will NOT be regulated by the Ofcommunist censors.


However, yesterday's chilling Ofcom report clearly raises far bigger issues.


How can any broadcaster or publisher truly stand for freedom of expression when state goons have the power to decide what you are and are not allowed to say on air?


Unlike the freedoms enjoyed in the US thanks to the First Amendment, how can these media outlets ever be anything other than controlled opposition?


As the epitome of the deep state Liz Truss spoke about last week, the Ofcommunists have once again shown themselves to be a muzzle that bows to the woke mob and only attacks those with whom it ideologically disagrees.


Post Office investigators, HMRC, the Police: the country is full of organisations that have gone rogue and disobey the directives of ministers and the will of Parliament.


It's not broadcasters who should be fearful of a carpeting from Ofcom: it's Ofcom that should be summoned in by this supposedly Conservative government to be reined in.
 

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Dan Wootton has confirmed he has left GBNews and will not be returning to the station.

Statement from Dan’s social media:

That will be a sizeable chunk off the payroll
Dan Wootton has reportedly been fired by GB News after the media watchdog ruled “misogynistic” comments made on his show broke broadcasting rules.

Mr Wootton has been axed from his £600,000-a-year presenting role with the broadcaster, Byline Times reported on Tuesday, with an insider telling the publication: “He’s definitely gone for good.” Mr Wootton’s name no longer features in the channel’s list of presenters on its website.
(My emphasis https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...1&cvid=850c3b61c6884fbfabaa65999dd1e815&ei=18)
 

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Gets sacked, then announces he's going independent.

Classy.

Can't wait to see him compete with Piers Morgan's new independent broadcast on how much they can moan about Meghan Markle.
 

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Wootton is a nasty piece of work, hopefully he descends back into obscurity quickly
 

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Wootton is a nasty piece of work, hopefully he descends back into obscurity quickly
He's already well on the path to obscurity - he used to be the entertainment reporter for ITV mornings, popping up nearly every day with the latest salacious gossip from Hollywood. It was only after he got caught up in that thing with Caroline Flack killing herself, with him in particular singled out for criticism over the comments he was making about her on a daily basis, that ITV decided to distance themselves from him, along with his other employers like the Sun.
 

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and I can see the plug being pulled in the not too distant future if this sort of intervention is needed to keep operating:
The losses are the cost of doing business in having control of a mechanism to influence policy and policy makers in UK right wing governments. The station will only close down if the backers of GBeebies get control of the Torygraph as they hope.

The mechanism for this messaging is obvious:

Tufton (Bufton) Street right wing opaquely funded think tanks > crank right influencers > Gbeebies > hard of thinking social media/bot escalation > Right wing media > Tory MP > sensible media reportage

( and getting placement in to the BBC also helps control that media landscape!)

Where does it end?
Hopefully with OFCOM living up to thier responsibilities and taking proper action against this alleged "news" broadcaster!
 

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As i said in an earlier post the channel can get rather repetitive at times but reading the majority of the stuff on here i really have to wonder if any of the posters have ever actually tuned in to watch it, i suspect not!

It is my cup of tea down to the ground so as long as it is on air i will continue to enjoy the fantastic array of guests that regularly feature from all over the political spectrum.
 

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Hopefully with OFCOM living up to thier responsibilities and taking proper action against this alleged "news" broadcaster!

They just said maybe there's less action taken against GB News than other stations because fewer people watch it.

Now, yes, I know a lot less people watch GB News than anything else, but that's really some pathetic excuse for inaction.
 

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As i said in an earlier post the channel can get rather repetitive at times but reading the majority of the stuff on here i really have to wonder if any of the posters have ever actually tuned in to watch it, i suspect not!

It is my cup of tea down to the ground so as long as it is on air i will continue to enjoy the fantastic array of guests that regularly feature from all over the political spectrum.
Yes I do (or did), more in the early days. I had reasonable hopes with Andrew Neil, who I've always had high regard for (except with his dancing) in that he challenges interviewees whatever their views. A few others were fine - Alastair Stewart and Simon McCoy come to mind, professional interviewers. I've been less impressed of late, i don't want the interviewer's opinions, thanks. I tuned in just now - Budget Day, the interviewer was asking about money set aside for a memorial for Muslim casualties in (I believe) the World Wars. I've only just got in so have no idea of the budget headlines but I would be amazed if that is one of the highlighted items. If that is typical, I won't be tuning in again anytime soon. If I want an all day news channel then LBC (Nick Ferrari, James O'Brien, Shelagh Fogarty, Andrew Marr) is closer to the mark for me - professionals!
 
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GB News is going to go crazy about the £1m memorial for Muslims who died in the two world wars.. Look at the comments on X (I recommend you don't) where the outrage is turned all the way up to 11.
 

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Now, yes, I know a lot less people watch GB News than anything else, but that's really some pathetic excuse for inaction.
perhaps few people watch the actual channel. Millions see thier bilge via social media. They need properly regulating - would the BBC get away with such nonsense?
 

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GB News is going to go crazy about the £1m memorial for Muslims who died in the two world wars.. Look at the comments on X (I recommend you don't) where the outrage is turned all the way up to 11.

Crikey, I wish i'd took the latter part of your advice. On the plus side it's sure to stoke another Ofcom investigation with what follows on their output later tonight.
 

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Very much looking forward to Dewbs and Co tonight at 6pm live from Whitehaven. Nigel Farage will also be in attendance.
 

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