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Should windows at the end of carriages be opened, should they be closed, or should they be opened when the train is above ground and closed when the train is underground? Thanks in advance!
At this time of year, almost certainly closed when above ground, due to the cold temperatures.Should windows at the end of carriages be opened, should they be closed, or should they be opened when the train is above ground and closed when the train is underground? Thanks in advance!
Should windows at the end of carriages be opened, should they be closed, or should they be opened when the train is above ground and closed when the train is underground? Thanks in advance!
Out of interest, has a specific incident given rise to this question?
Underground trains don’t have much ventilation, so really they should be open as much as possible. Also worth noting that tunnel air tends to be warmer than outside at this time of year, so if the issue is that the car is cold then opening the window in the tunnel may actually help.
As an aside, it always amuses me to see people adjusting the sliding ceiling vents on the Jubilee and Northern line trains. The sliders on these trains are dummy and don’t do anything at all!
I didn't know this! Why did they even bother installing them then?As an aside, it always amuses me to see people adjusting the sliding ceiling vents on the Jubilee and Northern line trains. The sliders on these trains are dummy and don’t do anything at all!
Maybe I'm weird but I actually quite like the smell of tube tunnel air.Something I thought of recently is whether windows should be opened when trains leave tunnels heading out of central London to replenish the polluted tunnel air with fresher air outside in the quickest way possible. Air does get exchanged when the doors open at stations, but sometimes I can still smell that lingering metallic murky air even when boarding trains on their return journey into central London, which may suggest that the air has not been fully replenished by the time they re-enter the tunnels. Opening both windows would provide a natural path for air to flow through the carriage as the train is moving, replenishing the air more quickly. This may be better done in the summer rather than the winter, but if I wait until the summer to share this thought I would probably forget about it.
The air on the tube is so polluted anyway, it doesn't seem to matter too much whether the windows are open or closed.On the other hand, closing the windows upon entering tunnels seems considerate to avoid blasting fellow passengers with tunnel air.
Nurse!!Maybe I'm weird but I actually quite like the smell of tube tunnel air.
That may be because many London buses still have "Please open this window" stickers on them. They stem from that time around 2020-21 when the country collectively lost its marbles.I have had recently, during this very cold weather, some nincompoops opening loads of windows on London Buses!
I didn't know this! Why did they even bother installing them then?
No idea to be honest. But can only guess that it was done simply to match the appearance of previous trains.
Your not alone gg1. I do too.Maybe I'm weird but I actually quite like the smell of tube tunnel air.
Quite… and IMO, the TFL/railway industry were one of the biggest marble losers during that era. Some of the lengths they went to were simply astonishing.That may be because many London buses still have "Please open this window" stickers on them. They stem from that time around 2020-21 when the country collectively lost its marbles.
First time I read your post, I thought you meant parts of the train turning black!...
The best way to avoid filthy tunnel air, in my experience, is to avoid the Piccadilly and Victoria lines. For some reason they are particularly bad, and standing on the platform you can see how filthy it is by looking to the far end. Black bogies after a trip on either of those lines.
The jubilee in contrast is much cleaner, no visible air pollution in platforms, no smell and no black bogies afterwards.
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The covid death rate for bus drivers was appalling. How dare TfL try and protect their staffQuite… and IMO, the TFL/railway industry were one of the biggest marble losers during that era. Some of the lengths they went to were simply astonishing.
The covid death rate for bus drivers was appalling. How dare TfL try and protect their staff
Piffle. Given everyone has had COVID sooner or later occupation makes no difference to your risk of catching it.The covid death rate for bus drivers was appalling. How dare TfL try and protect their staff
Here here. Still plenty of nuts around refusing take their masks off! And using elbows to press the bus ‘stop’ bell! How pressing a stop bell gets you covid I will never know. Load of old codswallopPiffle. Given everyone has had COVID sooner or later occupation makes no difference to your risk of catching it.
Here here. Still plenty of nuts around refusing take their masks off! And using elbows to press the bus ‘stop’ bell! How pressing a stop bell gets you covid I will never know. Load of old codswallop
Maybe some of those nuts had acquaintances who died from covid.Here here. Still plenty of nuts around refusing take their masks off! And using elbows to press the bus ‘stop’ bell! How pressing a stop bell gets you covid I will never know. Load of old codswallop
Maybe some of those nuts had acquaintances who died from covid.
That could cause a huge decrease in Chinese/Japanese/Korean tourism in the UK....with the attendant loss of revenue.Personally I would like to see mask use banned in public places as a crime-prevention / detection measure.
A MASSIVE difference between catching COVID in 2020 when the strain was more lethal, there was no vaccine, and nobody knew how to treat it, to catching it from say 2022 onwards.Piffle. Given everyone has had COVID sooner or later occupation makes no difference to your risk of catching it.
I don’t think TFL operate the bus services in London. Arriva, Tower Transit, Metroline etc do, as far as I am aware.They’re not directly employed by TfL, but surely TfL has a duty of care to any staff operating it’s services.