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Where does spoil go in this situation?
Does Network Rail have some sort of pre-arranged dumping area or does it go into the commercial landfill system?

It will go into the normal NR spoil handling process, in this case via Bescot.
 
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except that my friend found himself on a bus which (without warning) didn't bother to go to Long Buckby... Luckily there were no revenue protection people around to charge him with over-travelling!
You can't be issued with a Penalty Fare or prosecuted for matters in relation to a replacement bus - by definition, it's not a train and those laws only apply to travel on the railway.

There's a potential argument that the NRCoT sanction of an Anytime single could still apply, but as it wasn't your friend's fault it wouldn't apply in his case anyway.
 

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Not that it affects me currently but if it was at a time I was travelling Northampton to Whitehaven then it would be more useful to me, or others travelling Northampton to the North West or Scotland, if they explicitly allowed travel from Northampton to Milton Keynes to pick up Avanti services from there.
Northampton to Whitehaven is valid via Milton Keynes. Routeing Guide Easement 700438 relates:

700438 Customers travelling from Northampton to or via Stafford or via Stone in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted may double back via Milton Keynes. This easement applies in both directions.
 

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Out of interest, how viable is reversing at Rugeley ?

I can see how it would work at Stafford, but at Rugeley it looks like the turnaround would have to be done on the live lines north of the station, whereas reversing at Stafford is in the station so I assume safer ?
NIghtmare at Rugeley, you have to cross the entire job and then bung up the up slow. Stafford is much more flexible.
 

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Northampton to Whitehaven is valid via Milton Keynes. Routeing Guide Easement 700438 relates:
I knew this easement did exist but wasn't sure if it still did, but now I do :smile:
My point still stands that it would help customers if the easement was explicitly stated during disruption to services.
Incidentally does routing 'via Rugby negate this?
 

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Incidentally does routing 'via Rugby negate this?
No, it doesn't. I'm assuming the ticket has 'via Rugby' on it, if so you are going via Rugby having gone to Milton Keynes first.

Some tickets are routed 'via Long Buckby' and those would not be valid for travel via Milton Keynes.
 

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Some tickets are routed 'via Long Buckby' and those would not be valid for travel via Milton Keynes.
Of course that includes tickets from Long Buckby - with the farcical result of there being tickets from Long Buckby via Long Buckby to Preston, for example.

Though the intent of the route restriction is clear to those who are well-informed, the average person would probably just consider it some sort of mistake and ignore it.
 

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Of course that includes tickets from Long Buckby - with the farcical result of there being tickets from Long Buckby via Long Buckby to Preston, for example.

Though the intent of the route restriction is clear to those who are well-informed, the average person would probably just consider it some sort of mistake and ignore it.

Surely that would make more sense as "Not Wolverton", or is it only London you can negate?
 

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If you want to get from Rugby to Coventry and you have no train or RR you'd have to get either a bus ran by Stagecoach to Coventry or the National Express 85 (which takes just over an hour!)
You'd have to get the 96 from Northampton (and possibly encounter Yours Truly at the helm) to Rugby, clocking in at around 90 minutes and then another bus (or possibly the same one as 96s turn into something else) either the 86, taking 55 minutes, the 25 or the 85/A/B run by National Distress, also taking roughly an hour
 

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Is there a reason why these services have to run to Wolverhampton only for them to return back up-to Stafford to get onto the Trent Valley route?
Means Wolves is not omitted as a call and the train picks up booked path from Rugby.
 
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You'd have to get the 96 from Northampton (and possibly encounter Yours Truly at the helm) to Rugby, clocking in at around 90 minutes and then another bus (or possibly the same one as 96s turn into something else) either the 86, taking 55 minutes, the 25 or the 85/A/B run by National Distress, also taking roughly an hour
I probably have encountered you then, or at least my wife, who catches the 96 twice a day, will have.

It's frustrating how long the 96 now takes to get to Rugby. I can accept going round Ryehill as it's important for elderly people, but the detour round DIRFT is getting silly now. Why do warehouse workers need dropping off outside the door? They are usually fit and healthy people who can walk to a bus stop.
 

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I probably have encountered you then, or at least my wife, who catches the 96 twice a day, will have.

It's frustrating how long the 96 now takes to get to Rugby. I can accept going round Ryehill as it's important for elderly people, but the detour round DIRFT is getting silly now. Why do warehouse workers need dropping off outside the door? They are usually fit and healthy people who can walk to a bus stop.
It could be due to the fact it's a Stagecoach service and Stagecoach charge single tickets based on how far you travel (unlike National Distress for example.) If it goes to DIRFT then they can charge you more to go to Rugby as it's a longer journey time/route distance.
 
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It could be due to the fact it's a Stagecoach service and Stagecoach charge single tickets based on how far you travel (unlike National Distress for example.) If it goes to DIRFT then they can charge you more to go to Rugby as it's a longer journey time/route distance.
That's interesting I never knew that.

In this case however, I think it's more to do with DIRFT chucking a load of money at Stagecoach as their logo had appeared all over the timetable, bus stops, etc...
 

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That's interesting I never knew that.

In this case however, I think it's more to do with DIRFT chucking a load of money at Stagecoach as their logo had appeared all over the timetable, bus stops, etc...
Well if this DIRFT place is funding the bus route, I would be grateful for that since it'll keep the bus route running
 
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Well if this DIRFT place is funding the bus route, I would be grateful for that since it'll keep the bus route running
Yes, in the same way I'm grateful to the debt ridden, mass polluting water companies that I can still get clean water out of my tap.
 

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I probably have encountered you then, or at least my wife, who catches the 96 twice a day, will have.

It's frustrating how long the 96 now takes to get to Rugby. I can accept going round Ryehill as it's important for elderly people, but the detour round DIRFT is getting silly now. Why do warehouse workers need dropping off outside the door? They are usually fit and healthy people who can walk to a bus stop.
To be fair, from DIRFT South to DIRFT III it's over two miles, so there do need to be multiple stops; the 96 does appear to use a somewhat unnecessarily convoluted route, though.
 

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As the line has now reopened this thread has run it's course.
 
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