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Travelling from DLR via Bank onto Northern line to Euston

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I wonder if someone could help with a query please.
My wife (62) and her friend (70) are not very savvy public travellers and have gone to London for the weekend, for the C2C weekend at the O2 arena and are staying near Royal Victoria dock. My suggestion for them was to travel to Euston, then southbound Northern line to Bank for a DLR connection round to Royal Victoria station.

The outbound journey worked well on Friday and they caught the cable car over to the O2 last night, tonight and tomorrow night. On Monday morning I was expecting then to make the reverse journey via Bank, but they are under the impression they cannot do that, and are instead suggested to use various other routes such as Elizabeth Line and walk etc I believe there is engineering work on the DLR Saturday and Sunday, but I would have thought they could travel back to Euston via Bank and the Northern line on Monday morning.

Can anyone help please
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ThameslinkUser said:
There are no planned closures on Monday morning for the DLR.
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Thanks for that info

Pleased to report that this route worked fine in both directions, and the ladies don't understand why the option is not suggested. A colleague suggested using HS1 to St Pancras then a walk up the Euston road, but I am fairly confident my route offered less walking for them.

Whilst on the subject of TfL travel they were staying at the Excel in Royal Victoria so used the Skyway to get over to the O2 arena, but were caught out on Sunday night when they reckoned the Skyway closed at 2100. Is that too early for a concert that finishes around 2230 ?
 
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The dangleway shuts at 2100 most days, it’s only Friday and Saturday when it stays open until 2300. Given the cost at £6 each way it isn’t really part of the public transport network. Perfect for your wife given her hotel but most people would take the Jubilee Line after the concert.

As for the journey planner, it’ll probably have diverted them on to the Lizzy Line at Custom House as that would be slightly faster to central London.
 
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Wyrleybart said:
I wonder if someone could help with a query please.
My wife (62) and her friend (70) are not very savvy public travellers and have gone to London for the weekend, for the C2C weekend at the O2 arena
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Did anyone else wonder why a TOC was appearing at an arena?
 
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Tetchytyke said:
Given the cost at £6 each way
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I'm sorry what? £6 each way! So it would be a £12 return trip just to cross the river, each. Wow.

Is it even included in a daily fare cap?

Bearing in mind we can run ferries for free (see Woolwich) why on earth does this cost so much. If it's not even in a daily fare cap then arguably this is purely a tourist attraction and shouldn't feature on the tube map.
 
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thomalex said:
Bearing in mind we can run ferries for free (see Woolwich) why on earth does this cost so much.
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Despite carefully-crafted appearances, Boris is not just a harmless buffoon. He's always been irresponsible with public finances.
 
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thomalex said:
I'm now picturing what a C2C gig would look like :D
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Haha. You are maybe more interested in 357s than the annual Country 2 Country music festival !!!

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It's 100% a tourist attraction. It's quicker to travel between the two ends of it by Jubilee Line and DLR.



No argument with that.
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I guess you are right. It just seems as though the "danglebahn" was 3 mins walk from their hotel and dropped them outside the O2. Probably an ideal mode of transport if expensive. I beleive they bought a book of tickets for £17.

Regarding speed. It is not always relevant. Sometimes less walking, especially if you are a 70 year old lady who doesn't know where she is going !!!

Thanks for all the responses folks
 
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thomalex said:
If it's not even in a daily fare cap then arguably this is purely a tourist attraction and shouldn't feature on the tube map.
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It’s a tourist attraction, nothing more. The Dangleway has always only ever been a tourist attraction. Just another of Boris Johnson‘s white elephants.

If I wasn’t travelling elsewhere during the day I’d probably use it for that journey though, especially for something like a gig. It’s an interesting ride and worth the money every now and again.

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It's 100% a tourist attraction. It's quicker to travel between the two ends of it by Jubilee Line and DLR.
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That’s mostly because they’ve slowed it down to make it more of a tourist attraction.

I don’t know if it’s still the case, but back when they were still pretending it was a genuine public transport mode I seem to recall it ran faster at peak times.
 
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Tetchytyke said:
I don’t know if it’s still the case, but back when they were still pretending it was a genuine public transport mode I seem to recall it ran faster at peak times.
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I don't know about it now, but yes, they do have different speed settings when I rode it a few years ago. I asked if they were running it fast or slow. They said "fast", because it was a hot summers day and they didn't want anyone to suffocate inside!

And back then, it was only £3.50!
 
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Tetchytyke said:
The dangleway shuts at 2100 most days, it’s only Friday and Saturday when it stays open until 2300. Given the cost at £6 each way it isn’t really part of the public transport network. Perfect for your wife given her hotel but most people would take the Jubilee Line after the concert.
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Worth noting the cable car does have a "Multi-journey ticket", which costs £17 and provides for 10 one-way journeys, valid for a year from the date of issue - so a potential cost of £1.70 a journey. The Multi-journey ticket is not transferrable - I don't know how that is policed, but it certainly precludes the more than one person using it at the same time (e.g. two people making a journey together).

Given a single fare is £6, the Multi-journey ticket will actually start saving you money if you are making just three journeys - albeit only he princely sum of a quid! - but it would make financial sense for anyone planning to use the cable car four or more times within a year to buy it.
 
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Back to the original query, the TfL Journey Planner is throwing up strange results at present as it attempts to discourage passengers from using Euston Underground station due to escalator works at the station.

So, for a journey from Royal Victoria to Euston, it actually suggets changing to the Elizabeth Line at Custom House, then changing at Farringdon for the Met/Circle/H&C to Euston Square. Bizarrely, at Farringdon it suggests interchanging via Barbican rather than same station interchange at Farringdon.
 
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So, for a journey from Royal Victoria to Euston, it actually suggets changing to the Elizabeth Line at Custom House, then changing at Farringdon for the Met/Circle/H&C to Euston Square. Bizarrely, at Farringdon it suggests interchanging via Barbican rather than same station interchange at Farringdon.
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Are you sure you don't have the step-free mode enabled? I ask as that is very much the route I'd recommend for step free journeys
 
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Are you sure you don't have the step-free mode enabled? I ask as that is very much the route I'd recommend for step free journeys
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Absolutely sure!

As I said TfL are doing everything they can do try and route people away from Euston Underground station. It's so ridiculous that if you search for a journey from Finsbury Park to Euston (8 minute journey on the Victoria Line) it will tell you to go to Warren Street and get a bus to Euston.
 
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That doesn't make sense when it's the down escalator to the southbound Vic / Northern City branch that is out of commission.
 
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ThameslinkUser said:
That doesn't make sense when it's the down escalator to the southbound Vic / Northern City branch that is out of commission.
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That is what I found bizarre. I knew there was a problem on the southbound journey due to the escalators at Euston. The ladies had to use a "spiral staircase" in their words, but that was advised by TfL so they expected it. Northbound though, as far as I could tell, there were no likely issues, nor were there when they returned to Euston.

My wife's 70 year old companion has some walking difficulties and was pulling a case, so in my view the Bank connection involved the least walking of all the options - apart from getting a taxi I suppose.

Thanks for all your input on this
 
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Absolutely sure!

As I said TfL are doing everything they can do try and route people away from Euston Underground station. It's so ridiculous that if you search for a journey from Finsbury Park to Euston (8 minute journey on the Victoria Line) it will tell you to go to Warren Street and get a bus to Euston.
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Quite bizarre. The Station status for access says nothing for Euston at present, one would assume work on escalators is over, as promised for during April. However a journey plan just received tells me that I should get a bus from Euston Station to Euston Square, then Metropolitan line to Moorgate, walk to Liverpool Street and catch the Lizzie line to Romford!

Seems deranged. I then tried telling it not to use escalators but only stairs. Once again Bus to Euston Square, this time though its Hammersmith and City to Whitechapel to change for Romford.

When is this madness going to cease?
 
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Confused52 said:
Quite bizarre. The Station status for access says nothing for Euston at present, one would assume work on escalators is over, as promised for during April. However a journey plan just received tells me that I should get a bus from Euston Station to Euston Square, then Metropolitan line to Moorgate, walk to Liverpool Street and catch the Lizzie line to Romford!

Seems deranged. I then tried telling it not to use escalators but only stairs. Once again Bus to Euston Square, this time though its Hammersmith and City to Whitechapel to change for Romford.

When is this madness going to cease?
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A bus?! It's a 7-8 minute walk! Even has a connector on the tube map.
 
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Continued thanks to all contributors in this thread.
It kinda validates my thoughts in relation to people of limited mobility and their luggage.

It also makes me wonder how many other locations there might be where innocent folk are sent on unnecessarily complex yomps where a fairly simple journey could be made by trusting the maps and information.
 
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