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Landslip ECML 19 March

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Hearing from a friend at cross country that there's been some sort of landslip north of berwick, ecml currently closed to traffic between berwick and dunbar
 
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1S08 is held at Alnmouth, TM announced this is due to a report of a possible landslip in the Berwick area. IS35 appears to be held at Belford, 1V60 at Reston
 

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I nearly started a fourth thread! I’m on the 11.24 from Waverley to KX currently held at Dunbar
 

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‘Potential’ landslip.
Driver of a Xc has reported what they believe to be a landslide of a small amount of earth, detached from embankment and rolled into cess.

Geotechnical engineers are airborne in helicopter on route to assess.
 
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TM on 1S08 has just apologised for the delay and for the lack of information, but mentioned that the possible landslip is north of Berwick station
 

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Still held at Dunbar but just announced we’ll be moving again shortly at lower speed. Everyone very calm onboard which is good.
 

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1E12 and 1V60 have moved past the presumed obstruction, but they're now stopped outside Berwick as 1S07 and 1S35 are taking up the platforms. Nothing moving north yet.
 
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1E12 and 1V60 have moved past the presumed obstruction, but they're now stopped outside Berwick as 1S07 and 1S35 are taking up the platforms. Nothing moving north yet.
1S08 stopped outside Tweedmouth, presumably for same reason
 

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1S07 now left Berwick. 1S33 ahead of it has not moved yet though.
 

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Northbound XC noted between Renton and Berwick. It was stopped with a couple of permanent way staff walking the track in front of it. That’s the first northbound I’ve see for two and a half hours.
 
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1S08 stopped outside Tweedmouth, presumably for same reason
Still stopped and admiring the landscape in one direction and the North Sea in the other. All very tranquil - until 1E12 (presumably) passed at speed a minute or so ago and made everyone jump

Latest announcement on 1S08 is that the northbound line is not open, but we are proceeding into Berwick station. Not sure how that fits with post #13 above - but the TM did mention that there has been confusion between Network Rail Scotland and LNER Control

Further update: 1S08 stopped at Berwick just long enough for the catering crew to leave the train, then departed northwards running at what feel like normal service speeds and has now passed Reston.

There's a lot of what looks like ground movement monitoring equipment on the west side of the ECML roughly between Berwick station and the border. It would be interesting, maybe concerning, if actual movement was detected by Mark I human eyeball rather than the hi-tech. But I for one am very grateful to all concerned that it was both noticed and investigated
 
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#LNERUpdate Normal working has been resumed however further delays and some alterations may be expected. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused to your journey today.

Lines have reopened but delays still expected according to LNER.

Ticket Acceptance: - Rail replacement road transport has been requested to operate between #Newcastle and #Edinburgh in both directions. -Northern services between #Newcastle and #Carlisle in both directions. (1/2)
https://x.com/TPEassist/status/1770105326618001540?s=20

Interesting approach to go for Rail Replacement Buses, wonder if the request will be followed through now that lines have reopened.

- TransPennine Express services between #Carlisle and #Edinburgh in both directions. - Cross Country services between #Edinburgh and #Leeds in both directions. - LNER services between #Edinburgh and #Leeds in both directions. (2/2)

That makes more sense.

CLEARED: All lines have now reopened between Berwick-Upon-Tweed and Dunbar.

XC reporting all lines have reopened.

Following a landslip between #BerwickUponTweed and #Edinburgh all lines have now reopened.

Lumo reporting all lines as reopened.
 

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The 11.24 Lumo ex Waverley which I’m on has just dropped off some engineers between Durham and Darlington to assist a failed (?) Lumo in the adjoining track heading north. I feel fortunate to be travelling south and not north.
 

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The 11.24 Lumo ex Waverley which I’m on has just dropped off some engineers between Durham and Darlington to assist a failed (?) Lumo in the adjoining track heading north. I feel fortunate to be travelling south and not north.
1P25 TPE had a loss of air, it was to drop a Hitachi fitter off to rectify the fault.
 

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I was almost caught up in this as I should have been on 1E17 the 1330 from Edinburgh (formed off of 1S08 the 0830 from Kings Cross usually) however having seen the coming meltdown I was able to get to Darlington early and a kindly LNER train manager allowed me to travel on their service instead of my booked. Which, considering I was connecting onto the last Eurostar to Brussels of the day was extremely helpful of them! Looking at how 1E17 is going currently (48 down due 1835 at Kings Cross, the Eurostar is 1934) I would probably make it comfortably but I would be far more nervous than I am sat in a pub enjoying a drink :lol:

My thanks as always to a pragmatic TM who prioritised good customer service over sticking rigidly to the rules (as it would seem that ticket restrictions were not lifted).
 

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Still stopped and admiring the landscape in one direction and the North Sea in the other. All very tranquil - until 1E12 (presumably) passed at speed a minute or so ago and made everyone jump

Latest announcement on 1S08 is that the northbound line is not open, but we are proceeding into Berwick station. Not sure how that fits with post #13 above - but the TM did mention that there has been confusion between Network Rail Scotland and LNER Control

Further update: 1S08 stopped at Berwick just long enough for the catering crew to leave the train, then departed northwards running at what feel like normal service speeds and has now passed Reston.

There's a lot of what looks like ground movement monitoring equipment on the west side of the ECML roughly between Berwick station and the border. It would be interesting, maybe concerning, if actual movement was detected by Mark I human eyeball rather than the hi-tech. But I for one am very grateful to all concerned that it was both noticed and investigated
The monitoring equipment is vital for telling you how deep something is failing (if it is), how fast it might be moving, whether it is accelerating etc... but very few inclinometer arrays are actually live data uplinks, most are just read on a predetermined frequency by surveyors running a probe down the tube.

Inclinometers are the most frequent monitoring of slope failures. Where there is a risk of sudden failure you can have live uplink tiltmeters or lidar/monitoring cameras that tell you less about the actual failure itself but will give you warnings when sonething does happen.
 
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The monitoring equipment is vital for telling you how deep something is failing (if it is), how fast it might be moving, whether it is accelerating etc... but very few inclinometer arrays are actually live data uplinks, most are just read on a predetermined frequency by surveyors running a probe down the tube.

Inclinometers are the most frequent monitoring of slope failures. Where there is a risk of sudden failure you can have live uplink tiltmeters or lidar/monitoring cameras that tell you less about the actual failure itself but will give you warnings when sonething does happen.
Thanks for the explanation!
 

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