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We are visiting Glasgow soon and shall probably be visiting atleast one of the museums you mention. Considering I live 300 miles south, will I begrudge paying a ticket price that includes a re-visit within the next 12 months? NO!! It is just something that happens all over the country.
So sorry, yes you are "cutting off your nose" and to my mind being exceedingly petty.
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A bit like the Titanic one in Belfast then.
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I really don't understand this.
Many of the places I have visited over the past ten years or more have been doing this. I think I first encountered it at the "Eden Project" at least ten years ago, though I have in mind that the Shakespeare properties in Stratford-upon-Avon were doing it before that.
The only difference is the way some are promoted. The London Transport Museum simply advertises their tickets as an "Annual Pass". When I first encountered the feature at the Eden Project I bought a day ticket, but in small print, almost as an afterthought, it said something like "and don't forget: you can revisit the Eden Project as many times as you like in the next twelve months." As it happens it was of little benefit to me as I live 300 miles from the Eden Project. But it would not have deterred me from visiting if the only ticket on offer was a reasonably priced "annual pass."
Many of the places I have visited over the past ten years or more have been doing this. I think I first encountered it at the "Eden Project" at least ten years ago, though I have in mind that the Shakespeare properties in Stratford-upon-Avon were doing it before that.
The only difference is the way some are promoted. The London Transport Museum simply advertises their tickets as an "Annual Pass". When I first encountered the feature at the Eden Project I bought a day ticket, but in small print, almost as an afterthought, it said something like "and don't forget: you can revisit the Eden Project as many times as you like in the next twelve months." As it happens it was of little benefit to me as I live 300 miles from the Eden Project. But it would not have deterred me from visiting if the only ticket on offer was a reasonably priced "annual pass."
If you think these are steep ...
St Paul's Cathedral is £25 to visit. We have a family ancestor (Victorian), with my own name, who has a burial tomb in the crypt. If my wife and I are showing my brother and his wife round London, that was £100 for us to go in and show it. To see OUR family ancestor's memorial, now taken as part of their exhibit.
St Paul's Cathedral is £25 to visit. We have a family ancestor (Victorian), with my own name, who has a burial tomb in the crypt. If my wife and I are showing my brother and his wife round London, that was £100 for us to go in and show it. To see OUR family ancestor's memorial, now taken as part of their exhibit.
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How much do you think the respective costs would be, in order to be a good deal, a fair option and also break even?
My last visit was before that. I do remember going, but I was only about 11 on my last visit, so I do intend to go again at some point.
I'd want to go with others; I see they are part of the National Rail 241 promotion, so it would be a very good deal for 2, 4 or 6 people, even if none of us were to use the ticket for more than one visit. Maybe I'll organise a visit for this Summer...
Davester50
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Agreed, Kelvingrove was a better museum than that Starchitect effort, that's a PITA to get to by public transport. Crammed in, with no coherent order.
It probably bumps up the price of a single entry by 3 quid tops, and with the queues of tourists for the 10 am opening when I was cutting past, there's plenty tourists not put off by that.
That looks betterThe depot open days at Acton are great ,well worth a visit .
The cognoscenti of a particular subject (or topic) for example transport soon get to know what the truly excellent value for moneys events which take place.
IMHO one of the best is Imberbus but based on last years experience you have to get there early both for the local car parking and to get on the first wave out.
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That's the point.
If they had advertised it as a single entry price. Would the OP have been complaining?
I seriously doubt it. The price wouldn't have stood out against similar tourist attractions.
It's not like say comparing the Shard Vs Skygarden. That IS a case where you can make a comparison between 2 similar tourist attractions and complain about the price
Davester50
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Just looked at The Shard viewing gallery prices. Ouch.
Better off in the hotel bar or restaurant a few floors down.
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The new Glasgow museum is not a patch on the old one that was at Kelvingrove..The 'street' is a pale imitation, The car Showroom is no longer there, the maritime sections is a feeble replacement where now it is like looking at the conveyor belt from the generation game instead of a wander around the cabinets of models that you could view from both sides.Most i understand are in store as there wasnt the room to accommodate them. Motor Cycles and Cars halfway up walls. I would love to get hold of the numpty who thought he had done improvements and nail him to the wall. Free??? they should pay you to go in. My eyes still ache
Buzby
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Oh agreed - whoever thought moving the car showroom so all you can really see is the underside of the platform that is nailed to the wall… but at least the Subway exhibits can be appreciated. Still, try a visit to the Nitshill facility (also Free) by appointment- some lovely signage there !
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Was there a couple of months ago - was ripped off even though its free entry. An absolute waste of time and an insult to the previous museums at the Kelvin Hall and Tramway.
Anyway on topic - charging a year ticket is very common across the country. I went to the Eden Project and they give you a years entry with your ticket.
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It might be common but some people are sensible and live on a budget.
It’s not cutting your nose off, it’s living within your means.
It’s not cutting your nose off, it’s living within your means.
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Which would make sense if the price wasn’t comparable with single-admission prices at similarly funded organisations.
The point shouldn’t be that “the LTM is too expensive as an annual pass”, but rather “this attraction that gives me one entry for the same price is too expensive”.
I doubt we’d be having this discussion if it was this price for a single admission (which, as I’ve mentioned upthread, it technically is).
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Have you even read this thread?
It's referring to a entry ticket priced similar to an equivalent tourist attraction for single entry. The OP has avoided answering whether they would have gone in were it labelled as single entry for the same price.
In this instance where it seems the individual travelled hundreds of miles, likely adding significant travel and accommodation costs then the museum would have been a small fraction of the cost
This is not a cost of living issue.
DarloRich
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Why would you make such a fuss about a free pass for a year? This board!
I have just been to the nymr. £50 ticket. Free unlimited returns for a year.
I live at the other end of the country but I will be back. You get full line coverage for that price and If I can travel that far and of the beaten track a return to London within a year doesn't seem unreasonable!
And if you don't go back what have you lost? The cost of one visit is the cost of one visit. Is the argument that cost is too high?
(You will also be asked to gift aid so buying the annual pass ticket shoved the museum some extra funding at no cost to you!)
I have just been to the nymr. £50 ticket. Free unlimited returns for a year.
I live at the other end of the country but I will be back. You get full line coverage for that price and If I can travel that far and of the beaten track a return to London within a year doesn't seem unreasonable!
And if you don't go back what have you lost? The cost of one visit is the cost of one visit. Is the argument that cost is too high?
(You will also be asked to gift aid so buying the annual pass ticket shoved the museum some extra funding at no cost to you!)
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Buzby
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I just love how the ‘justifiers’ feel that the annual pass is the same price as the (previous) walk up. I’m on a limited budget and have to go where I get best value. I have no need for an ‘annual’ anything and £25 is way too much. Locals get in for £18.50 which I suggest is at the higher end of access cost but just about do-able.
Of course nobody’s mentioned that EVEN IF you pay this amount you still have to get a free ‘timed ticket’ IF there is space available - so even if you don’t baulk at £24.50 walk up, you still might not get in. Yes, that is indeed a bargain (not!).
If single entry tickets for walk up were available at £18 that’s reasonable - £7 more isn’t.
Of course nobody’s mentioned that EVEN IF you pay this amount you still have to get a free ‘timed ticket’ IF there is space available - so even if you don’t baulk at £24.50 walk up, you still might not get in. Yes, that is indeed a bargain (not!).
If single entry tickets for walk up were available at £18 that’s reasonable - £7 more isn’t.
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It absolutely is a cost of living issue, these museums need to have as broad appeal as possible.
I live closer than the OP but the reality is that by offering an annual cost over a single visit it is by its very nature, more expensive. I’m not sure how anyone can deny that? As such it creates a barrier to those living on a lower budget.
Why is being offered free returns for a year being “brainwashed”, or a removal of choice (this is how their tickets have worked for years)? There’s no obligation to return, so you simply need to decide whether you feel the price is worth it to you for one visit. If not, nobody is forcing you to visit!
DarloRich
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Ok - it is about the cost of entry. That is a lot easier to debate than the free pass!
As for the free timed ticket- I haven't had a problem with any other places. You just book on line and select a time.
I did that for the NYMR for my mum's free ticket. No issues. There will be no issues at this museum.
PS - I have been on a budget many times in life. You pock something you want and save up. Budgeting means you have to make choices. It isn't easy saying no to things you want to explore
Buzby
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The argument is £XX.XX admission is rather expensive, BUT I’ve got unrestricted access for a whole year, so it’s probably better value - so I’ll accept it in good faith. You then find most lose their ticket and don’t go back….
DarloRich
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It is the same cost as one entry. Obviously your second entry comes at a lower price and so on.
The museum wants the gift aid that comes with the free pass. It isn't in their interest to sell you a "oner"
There is no conspiracy here!
But as noted above the price isn’t excessive compared to similar attractions, even if you just do a single visit, and wouldn’t you rather have the choice to return?
Appreciate it’s not so good for people hundreds of miles away, but aficionados in the south east will probably visit several times per year, so it’s offering them excellent value.
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I posted the facts regarding prices and dates earlier in this thread and you ignored my post completely.
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Davester50
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A much better layout, co-ordination, and a place where you can actually view the items.
Putting the cars up on a mantelpiece shows how bad it is.
If you've never visited the old one(s), you wouldn't know how bad it is.
Fact's didn't fit the narrative.
DarloRich
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I have visited both thanks. It is a fantastic museum. Interesting cross section of exhibits, good range of stories etc.
You can view all the exhibits. Easily. You walk to the top of the museum and come down through different periods of LU history. I am struggling to see how you form such a view. Could you expand on your position in more detail
Ps my pictures from my most recent visits are on my Flickr. I think I got shots of all the exhibits I cared about. Take a look.
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