Sam 76
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Still time to announce the end of May dates though or do they not do it like that ?
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ASLEF strikes W/c 6th May
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dk1
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Yes just a fortnights notice required.
Hellboydce
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Won’t be that close together so you should be fine
Has there been any strike days on bank holidays? I can’t remember being out for one
Sam 76
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Fair enough, and rightly so too. I still stand by my thoughts then. It’s a shame but it must be done. Would rather miss a trip, than watch these amazing people loose their pay and conditions
Not every company, and not every train driver has the opportunity to work overtime.
I'm pleased that I was correct in my thinking the unions wouldn't strike during an election week.
They clearly care about the public being able to vote.
They clearly care about the public being able to vote.
Which companies does this not apply?
Halwynd
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Understood, thanks.
dk1
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Citybreak1
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I have a few London trips June and August when will they likely announce any possible strike days?
Disbanding the RDG isn't a pre-requisite of negotiating TOC by TOC. That's a function of how the DfT are wishing to run the dispute. You need to worry more about the DfT and less about the RDG. They aren't guiltless for the handing of this but they're just dancing, sometimes badly, to tune that's called by the DfT.
I would imagine the number of people that need to take a train to get to a polling station is minuscule.
dk1
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I was once told that it makes the incumbent government look like it’s not in control of the country.
M.S.L.s were in Boris’s 2019 election manifesto.
It was but I was more referring to the promises that it would actually solve anything that were given more recently.
Bantamzen
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Given the amount of ongoing disputes in the public sector, any instant resolution is going to be unlikely. An incoming Labour government is going to have a lot on its hands sorting out the economic situation as well as industrial action, and they will probably not be in a position to offer anything an ongoing no-strings deal without delving deep into the economic implications. At best they might instruct RDG to go back to unions to finalise any outstanding deals, with a view to opening new negotiations for 2025 onwards. But even then they will have to be careful, because whichever industrial action they try to settle first, will raise expectations for other unions in dispute, which could lead to more widespread action if they don't all perceive that they are getting similar or better deals.
In all likelihood it will take several months for all disputes to be moved forward. Which ones will take priority remains to be seen, but its a fair bet that healthcare will one of the first.
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If you think less than 1000 out of over 11000 is “most”, then yes, “most” were rehired.
But there’s been little service interruption from strike action since. Short term pain for long term gain.
Sly Old Fox
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That’s a bit strong. They’re just people doing a job.
Five years of no payrise at all, I would say train drivers have probably earned one by now. If they had kept their powder dry until now and had gone to the RDG to ask for one, I can’t help but feel they would’ve been a lot more successful, and nobody would’ve lost any money. Just usual union bull in a china shop approach has cost them.
But surely after the inflation of the last few years they must be due one. Nobody is better off than in 2019 but there can’t be another group of people who’ve had literally nothing since then.
1D54
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In a similar position, with me i don't book anything outside of the 14 days notice they have to give. Prices go up in the mean time for advance fares but what it costs me in money it saves me with disappointment of plans going down the pan.
mike57
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Whatever your stance on this I cant see this strike acheiving more than the last few have. The government are not bothered, they know they are replaced this year, and probably wisely Labour are keeping out of it, theres no gain for them in it currently.
Personally I think the drivers have a good case, but current tactics are not working
Personally I think the drivers have a good case, but current tactics are not working
These things are not necessarily independent, even if surveys like that give the impression they are. Transport networks are the arteries of the economy, and poor transport infrastructure, be it creaking hardware that regularly falls over, or industrial action, stifles the utility of the railways and alongside that stifles economic growth. The UK economy is suffering with a significant contribution of that due to the poor productivity of its workforce, and workforce productivity is going to be hindered if people are struggling to get to work. Only 3% of people in the survey think transport is the most important issue facing the country (although they could think it is the second or third most important issue for all that graph tells us), but how many people have grasped the link between failing infrastructure and stifled economic performance? Immigration is only in there because the right wing media have programmed it into people to reduce the likelihood of them revolting against all the crapness seeping through the UK like a fart in a crowded lift, much of it caused by questionable government policies.
Been clear for 18 month though. Nobody cares about these strikes and haven't done for a long time.
Yes I wrote that wrong. They were offered the chance but 850 came back ( many retired etc )Btw they were employed by the federal government and had sworn an oath not to strike and indeed striking was illegal officially for them. Train drivers here haven't sworn that oath and striking isn't illegal. And ten years plus isn't that short term.
Snow1964
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And there is a fair chance a new Government will have other initial priorities so could be few more months before they consider even a token movement. Could easily be summer 2025 before anything happens to stop these repetitive (and unsuccessful) strikes
northwichcat
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With flexible working options there's fewer people who have to travel on a specific day. Saying that, sometimes the occasional travellers can't be flexible. Despite pointing out to my employer this week isn't a good week to hold a training day in Leeds, they weren't willing to look an alternative date or location.
A friend is supposed to be travelling from Windermere to Holyhead on a SailRail ticket on Wednesday 8th, when Avanti will be striking. Would anyone like to predict what level of "emergency timetable" they will offer from Oxenholme to Warrington? What have they done in the past? She does have the option of TPE Oxenholme to Manchester, then TFW Manchester to Holyhead. Does anyone know what the terms of SailRail are, i.e. could she try to get a seat reservation on that train now? (Boat is 1410.)
I work at the elections and can only get to my polling station by train. The bus doesn't run early enough. Whilst some staff will be near their polling station it won't be all and people can't vote without us.
Are you including polling station staff in your calculation? A polling station can't open without us.
Exactly this, which makes these utterly pointless.
I get why the strikes are happening, but, we're at the point where it's obvious, and has been for 12 months, that nothing is going to change this side of a general election.