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Unusually specific automated announcement at Tisbury loop

Grecian 1998

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On a journey between Salisbury and Gillingham a few days ago, the train as usual stopped at Tisbury loop to allow an eastbound train to pass. For those who don't know, Gillingham - Wilton was singled in the 1960s and by the time it was decided to reinstate a loop at Tisbury in 1986, the old down platform had been sold off, meaning the loop had to be placed east of the station. With the gradual increase in services, the loop is in use pretty much all day every day, meaning at least one train has to stop in the middle of the Wiltshire countryside to allow the other to pass.

Whilst there, I heard a new automated announcement to the effect of 'This train has stopped to allow another train to pass. This is a scheduled stop and there will be no delay to your onward journey.' I've heard guards make similar announcements before, but never heard an automated version. Rather specific given that there are a limited number of lines for which this situation would arise.

It does seem a sensible announcement to make as it probably looks odd to non-regular passengers. It may also be useful at Chard Junction loop which is similarly not at a station, although not many trains pass there since the loop at Axminster opened.

Has anyone heard anything similar on other lines? A bit niche really as it would generally only apply to single track lines with passing loops away from stations. That said I have been on a XC northbound service in the past starting at Paignton on Sunday afternoons which enters the loop at Dawlish Warren and runs past the platform to the end of the loop to allow another service to overtake, although it doesn't run in the current timetable, so could be useful in that situation as well.
 
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I've definitely heard this before but I'm racking my brains trying to remember where - it'll either be a XC Voyager or a GC Adelante.

I mention XC Voyagers because they *do* have prerecorded announcements on them - they're just not supposed to be used since Virgin handed them over (so I was informed by a guard).

I think it was on Grand Central though
 

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Talerddig on the Cambrian would be another candidate for such an announcement. IIRC I've heard guards say something similar while waiting there, but I don't think I've heard a prerecorded version used.
 

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That announcement has been around for a few years, although I believe the guard (or driver) has to activate it themselves.
 

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I was on an EMR 170 the other day on the approach to Stoke, and an automated message along the lines of "We are waiting at a red signal and will be on the way shortly" message started playing. Rather amusingly it kept going once we were in Stoke station with the signal cleared!

Not exactly the same but I'd never heard it before.
 

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Another scheduled stop in the countryside is on the Robin Hood line. The hourly southbound pauses at Bestwood Park loop, between Hucknall and Bulwell, to allow the northbound to pass. There's generally no announcement about why the train has stopped.
 

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That announcement has been around for a few years, although I believe the guard (or driver) has to activate it themselves.
I’m fairly sure it was in use when I was regularly travelling from Waterloo to Exeter some 8-10 years ago.

Great Northern could benefit from a similar announcement on the KGX-KLN trains, which have a scheduled delay at Littleport waiting for the London-bound service to vacate the singled section between there and Downham Market.
 
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Another scheduled stop in the countryside is on the Robin Hood line. The hourly southbound pauses at Bestwood Park loop, between Hucknall and Bulwell, to allow the northbound to pass. There's generally no announcement about why the train has stopped.
Also on some trains between Derby & Nottingham which have pathing stops between Long Eaton & Beeston where they are booked to wait for a London - Nottingham train to go in front.
 

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Likewise such "held at a red signal" announcements on the London Underground, where it comes to a stand between stations. Which is amusing on those lines with automatic driving and no signals. Doubtless felt that it is what the passengers will understand.
 

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Likewise such "held at a red signal" announcements on the London Underground, where it comes to a stand between stations. Which is amusing on those lines with automatic driving and no signals. Doubtless felt that it is what the passengers will understand.
“We are held in the tunnel because of the actions of the Communication Based Train Control signalling system. This is a derivative of the original SelTrac system first developed by Standard Elektrik Lorenz at their signalling works in Landshut, in the Alpine foothills, the Alps being a range of mountains. You don’t know what a mountain is? Well, let me explain. Years ago the earth was a molten mass….”
 

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I was on an EMR 170 the other day on the approach to Stoke, and an automated message along the lines of "We are waiting at a red signal and will be on the way shortly" message started playing. Rather amusingly it kept going once we were in Stoke station with the signal cleared!

Not exactly the same but I'd never heard it before.
This is exactly what is wrong with all these automated journey announcements - they are so prone to error that they become farcical. So much automated passenger information today is so often wrong or mis-timed that it beggars belief. It is not hard technology to get right but the railway seems to be unable to do so. I find it so annoying when auto annoucements are wrong but the guard does nothing to correct them, BUT, conversely, so many guards will routinely cut off correct recorded announcements to make their own version, which is often less intelligible, or simply (try to) repeat what the recording has said. In the case of the Tisbury one (and other similar situations), I wonder why it can't be left to the guard anyway, as there is plenty of time to do so.

It's not really likewise. The OP noted a stop that is timetabled and may be announced as a scheduled stop, but is not a station call.
Which makes one wonder; why not have it as station call if it is scheduled to stop anyway?

“We are held in the tunnel because of the actions of the Communication Based Train Control signalling system. This is a derivative of the original SelTrac system first developed by Standard Elektrik Lorenz at their signalling works in Landshut, in the Alpine foothills, the Alps being a range of mountains. You don’t know what a mountain is? Well, let me explain. Years ago the earth was a molten mass….”
Yes - it reminds me of the scene in 'Airplane' where the incident controller asks what's happened so far and the other guy says; "well, first the earth cooled, then the dinosaurs rose....".
 
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“We are held in the tunnel because of the actions of the Communication Based Train Control signalling system. This is a derivative of the original SelTrac system first developed by Standard Elektrik Lorenz at their signalling works in Landshut, in the Alpine foothills, the Alps being a range of mountains. You don’t know what a mountain is? Well, let me explain. Years ago the earth was a molten mass….”
Brilliant! :D
 

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On a journey between Salisbury and Gillingham a few days ago, the train as usual stopped at Tisbury loop to allow an eastbound train to pass. For those who don't know, Gillingham - Wilton was singled in the 1960s and by the time it was decided to reinstate a loop at Tisbury in 1986, the old down platform had been sold off, meaning the loop had to be placed east of the station. With the gradual increase in services, the loop is in use pretty much all day every day, meaning at least one train has to stop in the middle of the Wiltshire countryside to allow the other to pass.

Whilst there, I heard a new automated announcement to the effect of 'This train has stopped to allow another train to pass. This is a scheduled stop and there will be no delay to your onward journey.' I've heard guards make similar announcements before, but never heard an automated version. Rather specific given that there are a limited number of lines for which this situation would arise.

It does seem a sensible announcement to make as it probably looks odd to non-regular passengers. It may also be useful at Chard Junction loop which is similarly not at a station, although not many trains pass there since the loop at Axminster opened.

Has anyone heard anything similar on other lines? A bit niche really as it would generally only apply to single track lines with passing loops away from stations. That said I have been on a XC northbound service in the past starting at Paignton on Sunday afternoons which enters the loop at Dawlish Warren and runs past the platform to the end of the loop to allow another service to overtake, although it doesn't run in the current timetable, so could be useful in that situation as well.
I've heard a manual announcement made on Grand Central when a train is held for a long time near Doncaster, at the junction where the ECML joins, waiting for a train on that line which has the path before GC into the station.
 

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In the case of the Tisbury one (and other similar situations), I wonder why it can't be left to the guard anyway, as there is plenty of time to do so.
Using an automated announcement means the message will also be displayed on the PIS screens. So for anybody who struggles to hear announcements it's better.
 

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