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    Discussion About What Action Should be Taken Against Passengers With Expired Railcards

    It must be feasible that to buy discounted tickets e.g. railcards you could scan the ticket at a machine or link it to purchasing tickets online.
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Also anything that you’ve paid before should be deducted off any penalty fare.
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    Revamping penalty fares

    I’m not just for me though I’m trying to change it for everyone to make it fairer. It doesn’t cost the train company any more whether you buy it before the journey, on the train or before you get out the station as long as you buy it at some point.
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Yes because it’s a return journey (and you also missed a bit the part in the thread that that particular journey I would have claimed travel expenses for anyhow).
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Where have I said it’s optional? I don’t condone fare dodging but people getting on the train without paying but do pay at some point before leaving the end station is different to those who again are hiding in the toilets/barging through barriers or abusing/assaulting staff do you agree?
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    Revamping penalty fares

    If a railcard has expired then imo a railcard should be purchased but backdated for however long journeys were without the railcard so you may need to purchase a number of years worth. 1750093011 In that incident I did pay the penalty but imo SWR were profiteering and it’s those kind of...
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    Revamping penalty fares

    1. It would remain a requirement. To me it makes no difference if a guard sells you a ticket on the train then an RPI should sell you one too. If when you’re asked to buy a ticket you don’t have the money then the investigations start
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    Revamping penalty fares

    So RPI’s haven’t been boarding trains ir hanging round stations in large groups?
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Well I believe we can have this discussion. Let’s say a mass group of RPI’s boarding trains and let’s be honest they are not just 1 or 2. If they boarded more trains as regular guards they can pick up more individuals who haven’t paid 1750027709 Please explain why this is insane. I think it’s...
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Ok then reposition the staff for certain non barrier stations or put barriers in. 1750026872 If they pay and buy a ticket to me that’s job done if they don’t then they get penalty fare and fraud. (Also pass on to fraud team if the person is suspected of short faring)
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Or if the amount of RPI’s that board trains be converted to normal guards then more regular tickets can be sold .
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    Revamping penalty fares

    p Most stations have barriers and those that don’t perhaps could be staffed more or barriers put in place?
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Then more resources should be put on those ungated stations or put gates on them.
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    Revamping penalty fares

    I genuinely don’t get the issue under my proposal. 1. If you get stopped at any point within your journey you’ll either pay a normal fare for the journey it costs or 2. You’ll get a penalty fare with costs and maybe reported for fraud. 1750025332 But what it does stop is train companies...
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    Revamping penalty fares

    There would be consequences they would then get a penalty fare and/or reported for prosecution if they didn’t pay there or then. 1750024599 Happy for it to be moved to another board if necessary
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    Revamping penalty fares

    Yes if they offer to buy a ticket there and then. If they don’t then issue the penalty fares/report for prosecution
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    Revamping penalty fares

    I’d say that we should scrap penalty fares for people that say have got on a train and forgot to buy a ticket/expired railcards provided they have the means to pay when a revenue inspector comes on and they then pay for a rail card but have the dates shortened after an investigation as to when...
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    No weekend trains Southampton to Bournemouth until 2nd November...

    It’s more that they don’t understand that kids need to travel together! I could be my wife’s companion but a 10 and 11 year old are expected to make their own way 1727516009 Update only standard coaches have been booked which is unacceptable! Another solution would have been close one of the...
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    No weekend trains Southampton to Bournemouth until 2nd November...

    Accessible buses with lifts rarely seem to be on offer though! South west railway advised they were struggling to source one!
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    No weekend trains Southampton to Bournemouth until 2nd November...

    Cancel the freight trains plus just cancel some early and very late trains so we have some kind of service!

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