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It must be feasible that to buy discounted tickets e.g. railcards you could scan the ticket at a machine or link it to purchasing tickets online.

Also anything that you’ve paid before should be deducted off any penalty fare.

I’m not just for me though I’m trying to change it for everyone to make it fairer. It doesn’t cost the train company any more whether you buy it before the journey, on the train or before you get out the station as long as you buy it at some point.

Yes because it’s a return journey (and you also missed a bit the part in the thread that that particular journey I would have claimed travel expenses for anyhow).

Where have I said it’s optional? I don’t condone fare dodging but people getting on the train without paying but do pay at some point before leaving the end station is different to those who again are hiding in the toilets/barging through barriers or abusing/assaulting staff do you agree?

If a railcard has expired then imo a railcard should be purchased but backdated for however long journeys were without the railcard so you may need to purchase a number of years worth. 1750093011 In that incident I did pay the penalty but imo SWR were profiteering and it’s those kind of...

1. It would remain a requirement. To me it makes no difference if a guard sells you a ticket on the train then an RPI should sell you one too. If when you’re asked to buy a ticket you don’t have the money then the investigations start

So RPI’s haven’t been boarding trains ir hanging round stations in large groups?

Well I believe we can have this discussion. Let’s say a mass group of RPI’s boarding trains and let’s be honest they are not just 1 or 2. If they boarded more trains as regular guards they can pick up more individuals who haven’t paid 1750027709 Please explain why this is insane. I think it’s...

Ok then reposition the staff for certain non barrier stations or put barriers in. 1750026872 If they pay and buy a ticket to me that’s job done if they don’t then they get penalty fare and fraud. (Also pass on to fraud team if the person is suspected of short faring)

Or if the amount of RPI’s that board trains be converted to normal guards then more regular tickets can be sold .

p Most stations have barriers and those that don’t perhaps could be staffed more or barriers put in place?

Then more resources should be put on those ungated stations or put gates on them.

I genuinely don’t get the issue under my proposal. 1. If you get stopped at any point within your journey you’ll either pay a normal fare for the journey it costs or 2. You’ll get a penalty fare with costs and maybe reported for fraud. 1750025332 But what it does stop is train companies...

There would be consequences they would then get a penalty fare and/or reported for prosecution if they didn’t pay there or then. 1750024599 Happy for it to be moved to another board if necessary

Yes if they offer to buy a ticket there and then. If they don’t then issue the penalty fares/report for prosecution

I’d say that we should scrap penalty fares for people that say have got on a train and forgot to buy a ticket/expired railcards provided they have the means to pay when a revenue inspector comes on and they then pay for a rail card but have the dates shortened after an investigation as to when...

It’s more that they don’t understand that kids need to travel together! I could be my wife’s companion but a 10 and 11 year old are expected to make their own way 1727516009 Update only standard coaches have been booked which is unacceptable! Another solution would have been close one of the...

Accessible buses with lifts rarely seem to be on offer though! South west railway advised they were struggling to source one!

Cancel the freight trains plus just cancel some early and very late trains so we have some kind of service!