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  1. Shrop

    Double deck trains - again ...

    It’s not sensible to try to provide a meaningful answer to this question because any evidence would be skewed by the existing service pattern, and in any event I don’t want to stray too far off the topic of double deck trains, which is why I’ve not responded before now. The subject of fewer...
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    Double deck trains - again ...

    This comment raises an interesting point about the manner in which trains in the UK operate. I remember well the days when you could travel from London to Glasgow stopping only at Preston and Carlisle, or from Birmingham to Plymouth stopping only at Bristol TM and Exeter (and there are many...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Full circle to my earlier comments. Incredible that so many people are happy to keep putting up with it when these bad habits keep killing and maiming people, even to the point of arguing against trying to make any changes! :rolleyes:
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Can I ask what you mean by "anti driver policy"? Are you suggesting that it's a policy to try to deter car use?
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    Should it really be possible to see so many issues in a short time without even travelling on a train?

    Yesterday I dropped Mrs Shrop at Whitchurch to catch a train to see her daughter, and I returned there today to pick her up – here are my observations, it seems wrong to be able to find so much at fault. There is free parking at the station but the car park was almost completely full. A small...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Not sure why you're hung up on having to be without a car? Having a car is absolutely fine, it's only driving it dangerously that isn't. 1740637782 The only people who would need to adapt their lifestyles are those who cannot demonstrate that they can still drive safely. Let me ask you, are you...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Yes, this is certainly very challenging, and not completely unfamiliar among friends and family of my own, so I am sympathetic. However, while I accept your example, for every situation like this there are other people who cite hardship when it's less of a problem than they make out. It's...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Thing is, when my job involved traffic signals in the late 1980s, traffic sensors had already been in use for many years back then. Many local authorities chose to introduce systems such as SCOOT, which ran to fixed programmes and often paid no respect to approaching vehicles. These were fine...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    They have the right to choose where they live, and to run their lives in a practical manner around their choices. If they don't plan ahead and become dependent upon driving in a manner which endangers others, is that really fair? If you, or a close friend or family member was to be killed or...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    If I had time I'd examine your costings more closely, but alas I only have a few minutes at present. Nevertheless here goes for what it's worth. Firstly, you've costed a death at £4million, so with over 1600 deaths in 2024, that equates to over £6.4billion. Let's cost a serious injury at 10% of...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Once again I agree with you in principle, and you're absolutely right that no politician is brave enough to tackle this. But is it simply a lack of courage, or is it just that they don't even think about it? Some years ago one of our MPs (alas I can't remember who) visited the Netherlands and...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    This is absolutely spot on. I spent many years in road traffic management, and one of my jobs was liaising with headteachers and the police, addressing concerns about parking outside schools. We held many public meetings, often showing police videos, where parents were asked why they parked in...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    This is exactly the problem with successive weak Governments, they don't even have the courage to tell the UK public that it's all about road safety, and that taking money from drivers is only a side effect. And yet many police forces use speeding as a means of ticking a box for number of...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Thanks for this informative reply, and since I have a couple of spare minutes I'll reply. Firstly, are you sure about your cycle time of four minutes? That would be exceptionally long for any traffic lights, except at roadworks where they can be very long. Permanent installations tend to be...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    It's always interesting to bring Japan into comparisons with the UK, and more often than not they seem to be better than us. A good example is their railways which have been much faster and much more punctual than ours for many decades. People in the UK are often quick to excuse our failure to...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    It's not precise, but try standing at a few different sets of traffic lights for half an hour and see for yourself. Some might be less, some might be more, but even if it was just one tenth of this amount, it's still horrendous. Trouble is, such info is too politically sensitive to publish...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Sorry, no offence intended, it just seemed like you were suggesting that bad driving is sufficiently addressed, when it isn't. You could be right on this, but whereas all train drivers running a red light are caught, the numbers of car drivers caught could well be in single figure percentages...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    I think you should stand at any of thousands of traffic signal junctions around the UK that don't have cameras and see just how many cars really do run red lights and don't get caught. I can't immediately quantify this, but it's probably more than you realise. Same with drivers who exceed speed...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    When you say there is a pronounced hump, are you sure you have the right crossing? The one at Onibury really isn't that bad - you should try crossing the one further north along this same route, by Nantwich station, that one is far, far more severe! But aside from that, would you not suspect...
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    Onibury crossing accident and road driver capabilities

    Thanks for this explanation and I stand corrected. But think about this, if every time a car driver was to run a red light (and caught by being captured on camera), can you imagine the implications of subjecting them to a training/development plan! Nevertheless there is an argument that a...

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