Arriva Rail London - Trainee Driver - Recruitment Discussion

[greatkingrat]

I’ve asked how they calculate distance & if there was other nearer depots (Liverpool Street / Ilford?)

The only depot on the West Anglia side is Chingford, but even if you lived next door to it, it doesn't matter if there aren't any vacancies there.

 

[Kelki]

Alexandra

For the applicants that have sat assessments (recently) before and passed. You will be exempt from repeating certain assessments. The OPC will know what assessments you have done and what you don’t have to do. The OPC are handling this recruitment drive, so it’s nothing to do with ARL till the OPC give them the green light about you.

If your level of “Enhanced” matches the ARL requirements, you won’t have to sit those assessments again. The OPC will know.

Applications are being done in batches, no news is good news. Just be patient. I speak from experience with that one.

Any questions (for people who have done assessments previously) message the OPC, they respond pretty quick but for new applicants, again just be patient and good luck on your assessment days.

this doesn’t seem to be the case, the OPC have stated they are only dealing with the testing and notifying of the results. They are not providing further details for those who have already passed.

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Has anyone who is waiting a DMI from a previous recruitment drive been contacted to attend an interview?

 

[NSEWonderer]

Alexandra

this doesn’t seem to be the case, the OPC have stated they are only dealing with the testing and notifying of the results. They are not providing further details for those who have already passed.

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Has anyone who is waiting a DMI from a previous recruitment drive been contacted to attend an interview?

Didn't Alexandra the new recruitment lady say that the previous applicants wouldn't be carried over unless they reapplied to the new campaign.

 

[Kelki]

Didn't Alexandra the new recruitment lady say that the previous applicants wouldn't be carried over unless they reapplied to the new campaign.

Yes, but I did reapply.

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Yes, but I did reapply.

Just haven’t heard anything apart from the initial email to say we are interested in taking this further.

 

[NSEWonderer]

Yes, but I did reapply.

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Just haven’t heard anything apart from the initial email to say we are interested in taking this further.

Maybe they're waiting for all the dmis to be arranged. I'd suggest emailing her / arriva.

 

[Kelki]

Maybe they're waiting for all the dmis to be arranged. I'd suggest emailing her / arriva.

Thanks I don’t have an email address for Alexandra or get a response from the anyone else. Will see what happens.

 

[Jaytrains]

For all of those that been rejected due to the travel distance i would advise you to use a family’s or friend’s address thats closer to the depot in future because most of these qualified drivers dont even live london they all travel a good hour and twenty mins to work everyday

 

[DontPlayBoxing]

For all of those that been rejected due to the travel distance i would advise you to use a family’s or friend’s address thats closer to the depot in future because most of these qualified drivers dont even live london they all travel a good hour and twenty mins to work everyday

As someone who got rejected due to the distance, that is awful advice.

Anyone who thinks lying straight off the bat on an application is a good idea, is a huge red flag and shouldn't be considered for the profession.

Unfortunately, there will always be people who lie to get through, but you also got to remember, if you are someone who lives a certain distance away you cant bank on one application and need to remember you may need to apply with the same TOC elsewhere, it will look pretty strange when you've got applications in with different addresses.

Wont even go into needing to provide proof of address and when they run DBS/security checks and your home address is not the same as your application.

 

[BlackAdam]

As someone who got rejected due to the distance, that is awful advice.

Anyone who thinks lying straight off the bat on an application is a good idea, is a huge red flag and shouldn't be considered for the profession.

Unfortunately, there will always be people who lie to get through, but you also got to remember, if you are someone who lives a certain distance away you cant bank on one application and need to remember you may need to apply with the same TOC elsewhere, it will look pretty strange when you've got applications in with different addresses.

Wont even go into needing to provide proof of address and when they run DBS/security checks and your home address is not the same as your application.

I think your response is so unnecessary. If the advice ain’t for you..why even respond to it? The person is just stating the obvious. Many later relocate down the line anyway some further away, some closer. It’s not that deep to belittle/condemn someones advice on a forum. Many ways of skinning a cat.

 

[DontPlayBoxing]

I think your response is so unnecessary. If the advice ain’t for you..why even respond to it? The person is just stating the obvious. Many later relocate down the line anyway some further away, some closer. It’s not that deep to belittle/condemn someones advice on a forum. Many ways of skinning a cat.

Ok, if you think lying on your application is for you, go ahead.

 

[Tysoe]

I think your response is so unnecessary. If the advice ain’t for you..why even respond to it? The person is just stating the obvious. Many later relocate down the line anyway some further away, some closer. It’s not that deep to belittle/condemn someones advice on a forum. Many ways of skinning a cat.

So what happens when, like he says, they do a DBS check and your registered address is different?

Seems pretty stupid to me. More likely to get blacklisted then a job out of it.

 

[DontPlayBoxing]

So what happens when, like he says, they do a DBS check and your registered address is different?

Seems pretty stupid to me. More likely to get blacklisted then a job out of it.

I get what the guy is saying, it could potentially get you through the door and secure a job, then you can do whatever..

But advising people to flat out lie on there application is bad advice, what else you going to lie about, plus if the TOC do find out like you said, blacklisted.

 

[baz962]

And most of not all of the companies do read these threads .

 

[Jaytrains]

So what happens when, like he says, they do a DBS check and your registered address is different?

Seems pretty stupid to me. More likely to get blacklisted then a job out of it.

Pretty stupid? U can apply for a job and still move house you know, it’s not like you have live at your current address for the rest of your life lol i dont even know why I’m explaining myself i know a few people in the rail industry that have done it and it has taken them far, yess you can take it as lying or not being honest but you getting a rejection because u live 45mins away from a depot knowing well that you’d make it to work on time everyday is a bit upsetting if i was in that position anyways

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As someone who got rejected due to the distance, that is awful advice.

Anyone who thinks lying straight off the bat on an application is a good idea, is a huge red flag and shouldn't be considered for the profession.

Unfortunately, there will always be people who lie to get through, but you also got to remember, if you are someone who lives a certain distance away you cant bank on one application and need to remember you may need to apply with the same TOC elsewhere, it will look pretty strange when you've got applications in with different addresses.

Wont even go into needing to provide proof of address and when they run DBS/security checks and your home address is not the same as your application.

Lool my home address was different when i got the job to the address i had on my application, you think I’ll put my life on hold over a train application? No way

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So what happens when, like he says, they do a DBS check and your registered address is different?

Seems pretty stupid to me. More likely to get blacklisted then a job out of it.

Lool well im a qualified driver mate I’ve got my license

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And most of not all of the companies do read these threads .

Yeah and some tocs give u 6 months before your start date to relocate

Lol u guys are going on like relocating is a crime

 

[BlackAdam]

Pretty stupid? U can apply for a job and still move house you know, it’s not like you have live at your current address for the rest of your life lol i dont even know why I’m explaining myself i know a few people in the rail industry that have done it and it has taken them far, yess you can take it as lying or not being honest but you getting a rejection because u live 45mins away from a depot knowing well that you’d make it to work on time everyday is a bit upsetting if i was in that position anyways

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Lool my home address was different when i got the job to the address i had on my application, you think I’ll put my life on hold over a train application? No way

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Lool well im a qualified driver mate I’ve got my license

Mate what you said sounds logical to me, don’t even know why you even bothered responding tbh haha

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Pretty stupid? U can apply for a job and still move house you know, it’s not like you have live at your current address for the rest of your life lol i dont even know why I’m explaining myself i know a few people in the rail industry that have done it and it has taken them far, yess you can take it as lying or not being honest but you getting a rejection because u live 45mins away from a depot knowing well that you’d make it to work on time everyday is a bit upsetting if i was in that position anyways

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Lool my home address was different when i got the job to the address i had on my application, you think I’ll put my life on hold over a train application? No way

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Lool well im a qualified driver mate I’ve got my license

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Yeah and some tocs give u 6 months before your start date to relocate

Lol u guys are going on like relocating is a crime

People scaremonger In this forum I’ve realised and talk with opinions not facts. I’ve spoken to Train Driver Managers and Qualified train drivers what you saying ain’t foreign at all why I responded in the first place .

 

[Jaytrains]

Mate what you said sounds logical to me, don’t even know why you even bothered responding tbh haha

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People scaremonger In this forum I’ve realised and talk with opinions not facts. I’ve spoken to Train Driver Managers and Qualified train drivers what you saying ain’t foreign at all why I was I had to respond.

Before i became a qualified driver i done so much research on this forum and spoke to qualified drivers who gave me the best advice which helped me to get where i am today, this job is life changing money and you relocating whilst waiting for a start date aint a crime

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Mate what you said sounds logical to me, don’t even know why you even bothered responding tbh haha

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People scaremonger In this forum I’ve realised and talk with opinions not facts. I’ve spoken to Train Driver Managers and Qualified train drivers what you saying ain’t foreign at all why I responded in the first place .

It really isn’t and now as a qualified driver i can see that some of the places these drivers travel from is nearly double the travel distance which is understandable aswell because once u start making over 3k a month u might want to save up for a deposit of a house on the outskirts of london and no one can stop you lol u think they will take your license away? No way that’s yours just make sure it stays clean

 

[Driver121]

Bit odd they're rejecting applications due to distance... last recruitment drive I was offered Willesden which was 1hr+ drive whereas New Cross Gate is approx 15 minutes

 

[baz962]

Pretty stupid? U can apply for a job and still move house you know, it’s not like you have live at your current address for the rest of your life lol i dont even know why I’m explaining myself i know a few people in the rail industry that have done it and it has taken them far, yess you can take it as lying or not being honest but you getting a rejection because u live 45mins away from a depot knowing well that you’d make it to work on time everyday is a bit upsetting if i was in that position anyways

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Lool my home address was different when i got the job to the address i had on my application, you think I’ll put my life on hold over a train application? No way

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Lool well im a qualified driver mate I’ve got my license

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Yeah and some tocs give u 6 months before your start date to relocate

Lol u guys are going on like relocating is a crime

You are coming at me and you can't even read properly. I'm a qualified driver. I didn't say relocating is a crime . I was pointing out if they catch you lying then you are done and nowhere did I say you can't relocate.

 

[BlackAdam]

Morning anybody still waiting on stage 2 results? I’ll be on the 4th week from next week since I took the test. Anyone in the same boat

 

[dommo88]

Yeah I am!

 

[BlackAdam]

Yeah I am!

Ah okay! Ain’t just me then

 

[dommo88]

Ah okay! Ain’t just me then

Certainly isn’t. I’m hoping they haven’t dished out all the dmi’s already!

 

[BlackAdam]

Certainly isn’t. I’m hoping they haven’t dished out all the dmi’s already!

No harm in giving a gentle reminder. I’ll do it on Monday if I ain’t heard back.

 

[dommo88]

No harm in giving a gentle reminder. I’ll do it on Monday if I ain’t heard back.

That’s what I’m thinking too

 

[Spincity]

Interesting replies to what started as a positive post on this thread, to become a driver you are being tested on following rules/procedures, ability to learn information, concentrate, etc you're advised to listen to instructions etc through out the assessments and your career. Yet posters are advocating lying on your application, getting annoyed because they are not following the process to get results and then complaining about the reply they get because it’s wasn’t what they wanted. If I was an employer, whatever job application, and someone was blatantly lying, contacting a 3rd party for results, when informed of the process, I’d personally end your application and delete any further applications. For what’s it’s worth there’s a right way and a wrong way. Not getting into any replies, as the post will correctly get shut down by admin, and others will loose.

 

[Trigger94]

I guess people are still waiting to hear back about their stage 2 like me. Is poor communication normal for other toc's or is it an Arriva issue?

 

[Tysoe]

I think it's fairly common place for things to move slowly. Just a waiting game.

 

[Lonerangert]

Morning, anyone awaiting DMI results or possibly had them already? Also what kind of timeframe was you given?

 

[nithen]

Morning, anyone awaiting DMI results or possibly had them already? Also what kind of timeframe was you given?

When did you do dmi

 

[Jaytrains]

Morning, anyone awaiting DMI results or possibly had them already? Also what kind of timeframe was you given?

Dmi results can take between 2 to 8 weeks or even longer sometimes