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Merle Haggard said:
Thanks for that; I had assumed, with the considerable reduction in services, that there would be no need to use the 319s.
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That's alright. :)

Nope, there are still a few getting around.

All the services I said about are all penciled in as a '321' so 319.

I know for a fact 2N73 EUS-NMP & 2N75 EUS-NMP are always a 319 as I've seen them many many times. The other workings I can't guarantee as I don't see them.
 
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319 diagrams this week.... (M-F)

319x3
5N10 0639 Northampton EMD- Northampton
2N10 0649 Northampton to Euston
2T13 0831 Euston to Tring
2T14 0925 Tring to Euston
5B20 1052 Euston to Camden
5J45 1537 Camden to Euston
2J45 1608 Euston to Watford Junction
2J80 1644 Watford Junction to Euston
2J47 1738 Euston to Watford Junction
2J65 1811 Watford Junction to Euston
2B65 1838 Euston to Bletchley
5B65 1947 Bletchley to Bletchley C/S

319x3
5B06 0626 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B06 0634 Bletchley to Euston
2J50 0812 Euston to Watford Junction
2J10 0856 Watford Junction to Euston
5N10 0931 Euston to Camden
5N75 1705 Camden to Euston
2N75 1723 Euston to Northampton
5B75 1849 Northampton to Bletchley C/S

319x3
5B24 0741 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B24 0753 Bletchley to Euston
5B24 0900 Euston to Camden
5J91 1631 Camden to Euston
2J91 1710 Euston to Watford Junction
2A90 1743 Watford Junction to Euston
2N69 1824 Euston to Northampton
5N69 1958 Northampton to Northampton EMD

319x2
5B14 0731 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B14 0739 Bletchley to Euston
5C14 0841 Euston to Camden
5N73 1605 Camden to Euston
2N73 1630 Euston to Northampton
5B73 1751 Northampton to Bletchley C/S

There is a regular Saturday diagram....

319x2
5B04 0635 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B04 0640 Bletchley to Euston
2K09 0752 Euston to Milton Keynes
2K10 0856 Milton Keynes to Euston
5B20 1031 Euston to Bletchley C/S (ECS Move)
 
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Bletchleyite said:
How come they've dropped one of the sets to 8-car? They were all 12 before, weren't they?
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Unit availability, having a further spare on standby should there be an issue on the Abbey Line rather than have to split one off a 12 car set at some point. Capacity and passenger numbers allow it during the second lockdown as figures have fallen around 50% from a couple of weeks ago.
According to the figures 2B14 carried 64 passengers into Euston this morning, an 8 car is more than enough at present.
 
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I know this could be off thread; but is the continued use of 319s on LNR to reduce the use of 350/2s? It was said at the time of the franchisee change that the 350/2s had low fixed/high mileage based charges because they were originally intended to run mainly in the M-F peaks, so it would be logical to keep the 319s running and lay up the 350/2s to save on charges. Just a guess, though
 
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Merle Haggard said:
I know this could be off thread; but is the continued use of 319s on LNR to reduce the use of 350/2s? It was said at the time of the franchisee change that the 350/2s had low fixed/high mileage based charges because they were originally intended to run mainly in the M-F peaks, so it would be logical to keep the 319s running and lay up the 350/2s to save on charges. Just a guess, though
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That is one of the benefits, the /2's are certainly used less intensively at the moment. There is also the /1's modification program, plus the corrosion repairs and re-liverying as a separate project, and also the /4's are going through a mods program too.
Using the 319's allows all this to happen.....
 
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Silverlinky said:
319 diagrams this week.... (M-F)

319x3
5N10 0639 Northampton EMD- Northampton
2N10 0649 Northampton to Euston
2T13 0831 Euston to Tring
2T14 0925 Tring to Euston
5B20 1052 Euston to Camden
5J45 1537 Camden to Euston
2J45 1608 Euston to Watford Junction
2J80 1644 Watford Junction to Euston
2J47 1738 Euston to Watford Junction
2J65 1811 Watford Junction to Euston
2B65 1838 Euston to Bletchley
5B65 1947 Bletchley to Bletchley C/S

319x3
5B06 0626 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B06 0634 Bletchley to Euston
2J50 0812 Euston to Watford Junction
2J10 0856 Watford Junction to Euston
5N10 0931 Euston to Camden
5N75 1705 Camden to Euston
2N75 1723 Euston to Northampton
5B75 1849 Northampton to Bletchley C/S

319x3
5B24 0741 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B24 0753 Bletchley to Euston
5B24 0900 Euston to Camden
5J91 1631 Camden to Euston
2J91 1710 Euston to Watford Junction
2A90 1743 Watford Junction to Euston
2N69 1824 Euston to Northampton
5N69 1958 Northampton to Northampton EMD

319x2
5B14 0731 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B14 0739 Bletchley to Euston
5C14 0841 Euston to Camden
5N73 1605 Camden to Euston
2N73 1630 Euston to Northampton
5B73 1751 Northampton to Bletchley C/S

There is a regular Saturday diagram....

319x2
5B04 0635 Bletchley C/S to Bletchley
2B04 0640 Bletchley to Euston
2K09 0752 Euston to Milton Keynes
2K10 0856 Milton Keynes to Euston
5B20 1031 Euston to Bletchley C/S (ECS Move)
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Nice, thanks for the list! Never knew they did WCML service on a Saturday. :D
 
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Spirit555 said:
That 319 shown in the above picture is 319380. It's only just visible from passing trains. If nothing blocking view only side numbers can be obtained. I saw 319378 in Liverpool still with Northern last month and I believe 319364 is at Long Marston.

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319380 has gone from Northampton EMD to Eastleigh today behind 57312. I guess this may be another unit for Orion/ROG
 
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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
Class455 said:
Thought it would be best to create a thread for this rather than clog up other Thameslink related threads about the 319's heading to storage. This thread is also to keep track of both Thameslink and Northern 319's in storage

Sad to see these leaving the Thameslink network, but hopefully they'll all find a new home to go to.

The Class 319's are now all withdrawn from the Thameslink fleet and some withdrawn from the Northern fleet and are in storage in the following locations:
Stored at Long Marston
319001* (converted to Hydrogen FLEX demonstrator, renumbered 799001)
319011*
319362
319363
319365
319371
319374
319376
319377
319382
319451*
319452
319453*
319454* (Porterbrook innovation train)
319455*
Stored at Wolverton
319422 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319427 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319430 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319439 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319446 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319449 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Reading (for GWR crew training)
319423
319440
Stored at Brush Loughborough (for the 319 FLEX Programme)
319010 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
319421 (due for Transport for Wales, to be converted to Class 769)
319425 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319426 (due for Transport for Wales, to be converted to Class 769)
319427 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319430 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319432 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319435 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319436 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319437 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319438 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319447 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319452 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319459 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Crewe
319425 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319428 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Eastleigh Works
319009 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
319380 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
Scrapped
319004
Units still in Thameslink service
None
Units still in Northern service
319361
319366
319367
319368
319369
319370
319372
319375
319379
319381
319383
319384
319385
319386

Units marked with an asterisk (*) are non PRM compliant

I will update this list as more are placed into storage or locations of storage are changed

Last Updated: 20/11/20
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Could it be clarified what has happened to 364, 434, 442, 448, 450, 456, and 458 please as they appear to be missing from the list?
 
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adrock1976 said:
Could it be clarified what has happened to 364, 434, 442, 448, 450, 456, and 458 please as they appear to be missing from the list?
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364 is off lease.
434, 442, 448, 450, 456 and 458 have been converted to 769s for Northern.

Class455 said:
Thought it would be best to create a thread for this rather than clog up other Thameslink related threads about the 319's heading to storage. This thread is also to keep track of both Thameslink and Northern 319's in storage

Sad to see these leaving the Thameslink network, but hopefully they'll all find a new home to go to.

The Class 319's are now all withdrawn from the Thameslink fleet and some withdrawn from the Northern fleet and are in storage in the following locations:
Stored at Long Marston
319001* (converted to Hydrogen FLEX demonstrator, renumbered 799001)
319011*
319362
319363
319365
319371
319374
319376
319377
319382
319451*
319452
319453*
319454* (Porterbrook innovation train)
319455*
Stored at Wolverton
319422 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319427 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319430 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319439 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319446 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319449 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Reading (for GWR crew training)
319423
319440
Stored at Brush Loughborough (for the 319 FLEX Programme)
319010 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
319421 (due for Transport for Wales, to be converted to Class 769)
319425 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319426 (due for Transport for Wales, to be converted to Class 769)
319427 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319430 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319432 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319435 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319436 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319437 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319438 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319447 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319452 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319459 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Crewe
319425 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
319428 (due for GWR, to be converted to Class 769)
Stored at Eastleigh Works
319009 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
319380 (due for Orion Logistics/ROG, to be converted to Class 769)
Scrapped
319004
Units still in Thameslink service
None
Units still in Northern service
319361
319366
319367
319368
319369
319370
319372
319375
319379
319381
319383
319384
319385
319386

Units marked with an asterisk (*) are non PRM compliant

I will update this list as more are placed into storage or locations of storage are changed

Last Updated: 20/11/20
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319364 is stored, presumably at Long Marston.
319377 is at Eastleigh for conversion to a parcel unit.
319378 is still with Northern.
319421 and 319452 are now TfW Rail 769s.
319436 is now a 769.

In addition, 319425 and 319427 are listed twice and 319444 is missing from the list.
 
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507021 said:
364 is off lease.
434, 442, 448, 450, 456 and 458 have been converted to 769s for Northern.



319364 is stored, presumably at Long Marston.
319377 is at Eastleigh for conversion to a parcel unit.
319378 is still with Northern.
319421 and 319452 are now TfW Rail 769s.
319436 is now a 769.

In addition, 319425 and 319427 are listed twice and 319444 is missing from the list.
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Thank you very much.
 
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OTRail said:
Not to mention the units still in service with LNR are not listed...
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They’ve not been withdrawn yet and probably won’t be until the Class 730’s enter service, but I can list them if you wish...
 
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Class455 said:
They’ve not been withdrawn yet and probably won’t be until the Class 730’s enter service, but I can list them if you wish...
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Fair enough, many of the ones still in service with Northern won’t be off lease until around the same period as the 730 introduction will release the 323s replacing them.
 
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