Driver rota

[Tysoe]

Hi all, couldn't see a more suitable area to put this but I've been offered a place at cross country and they've given me a blank rota as an example but I'm struggling to understand it. I've attached it if a driver can explain it to me.

Would drivers names be down the left side and this would be a rota for 1 week or would drivers be repeated down the left? I know the a/r are standby shifts.

This is a cross country Cambridge rota if anyone's interested.

 

[Twotwo]

Yes you would drop a line every week.

AR means as required, I dunno what the movement hours are like for CC but where I am they can only move you 2 hours before or 2 hours after.

 

[Tysoe]

Thank for your reply, so the times on there would be the shift start and end times? And what do you mean by movement times?

Sorry new to all this

 

[WF4HA5HE]

Thank for your reply, so the times on there would be the shift start and end times? And what do you mean by movement times?

Sorry new to all this

At my company we would call "as required", Spare meaning your not booked to work any trains at the minute but may be asked to work one when you book on or during your shift. Movement times mean when your on a "as required" duty the company can change your booking on and off times by 2 hours either way. So say you where "as required" at 5AM-1PM they can change your book on to 4AM-1PM aslong as they inform you obviously.

 

[Twotwo]

Thank for your reply, so the times on there would be the shift start and end times? And what do you mean by movement times?

Sorry new to all this

Jobs that have numbers are booked jobs. Unless amended it won't change. I think some jobs can start and finish a bit later if there's engineering works etc but again all depends on the movement hours for booked shifts in your toc.

Ar shifts means your basically there to cover jobs so if your ar time is 14.00 they can move you to a job that starts at 12.00 or 16.00 and same thing goes with your finish time. Some tocs only allow certain couple of hours for movements within a 48 hour notice.

 

[Teddyward]

This thread discusses spare movement at XC

Cross Country qualified driver vacancies.

Hello all Just wondering if anyone can give me some info on Cross Country trains specifically Derby depot. - Do vacancies for qualified drivers come up often or can it be a long wait? - Any info on rosters/RD patterns. - Is rest day work plenty? - Any general T&C info. Thanks in advance!

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Bigfoot]

7 days rostered on in a row. No thank you!

 

[Horizon22]

7 days rostered on in a row. No thank you!

Longer working stints normally also lead to longer RD stints. Swings and roundabouts. Some people prefer that over just 1 or 2 RDs here and there.

 

[Tysoe]

Thanks guys, very useful

 

[whoosh]

Start time, finish time / Duty number (or A/R) / Duration


At Cross Country Sundays are all overtime, but you have a commitment to work them all (apart from the ones surrounding any annual leave week - but not if you've strung some ad-hoc days together to make a week). You can give away Sundays to other drivers, or take extra ones from other drivers.
With any swaps of weeks, or days off, or Sundays, you both need a minimum of 12 hours rest between duties.

A/R is 'As Required'. You can be allocated to any job which is uncovered (someone's sick, on leave, there's a vacancy, etc.).
If you get a longer job than your A/R hours, you'll get overtime for the difference. You can be given a job upto the maximum duty length at your TOC.
If you get a shorter job than your A/R hours, you don't lose out.
The notice you get depends on TOC, so at my TOC I can be moved from my A/R time to a duty with 48 hours notice.

If you dont get allocated a job, you go in at your A/R time and sit in the messroom. You can be given work (either a whole duty, or part of one) that fits within your hours that day.


S/B is 'Safety Brief' - sometimes called STUD (Safety Training Update Day). Discussing any rule book changes, and looking at incidents. There is an industry video series called 'Red' which has reconstructions of incidents/near misses.

 

[dk1]

S/B is 'Safety Brief' - discussing any rule book changes, and looking at incidents. There is an industry video series called 'Red' which has reconstructions of incidents/near misses.

And how soul destroying are some of those to sit through? Thankfully we are normally on our toes and heading home within 3 hours.

 

[Class2ldn]

And how soul destroying are some of those to sit through? Thankfully we are normally on our toes and heading home within 3 hours.

3 hours!! Why so long lol

 

[dk1]

3 hours!! Who so long lol

Then there’s the pack beforehand that nobody asks any questions or else.

 

[66701GBRF]

Then there’s the pack beforehand that nobody asks any questions or else.

There's usually one though!

 

[Class2ldn]

Then there’s the pack beforehand that nobody asks any questions or else.

There's always one though lol

 

[whoosh]

And how soul destroying are some of those to sit through?

Some are OK, but did you see the one about 'Asset integrity'?

Oh My God!!!
Talk about 'fatigue index', lol!

 

[dk1]

Some are OK, but did you see the one about 'Asset integrity'?

Oh My God!!!
Talk about 'fatigue index', lol!

I may have drifted off as nothing is springing to mind lol. I’m totally up to date as have had two STUD days so far this year.

 

[Efini92]

I may have drifted off as nothing is springing to mind lol. I’m totally up to date as have had two STUD days so far this year.

Are they loaning you out to produce the train drivers of the future?

 

[dk1]

Are they loaning you out to produce the train drivers of the future?

I’m up for that.