GBRf - Trainee Train Managers - W.Mids/Peterborough/Didcot (16/11/24)

[Firestarter]

GBRF are advertising for Trainee Train Managers at various locations on the GBRF website.

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West Midlands

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Overview
TRAINEE TRAIN MANAGER OPPORTUNITY

We are currently recruiting for Trainee Train Managers in West Midlands.

TRAINING PLANS

If successful you will be required to attend a comprehensive training and assessment programme lead by our Operations Standards and Training Department in Peterborough.

Applicants must be available to complete the classroom training without disruption for 12 weeks (this means no annual leave). These training courses are planned to commence in 2025, January onwards.

Peterborough

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Overview
TRAINEE TRAIN MANAGER OPPORTUNITY

We are currently recruiting for Trainee Train Managers in Peterborough.

TRAINING PLANS

If successful you will be required to attend a comprehensive training and assessment programme lead by our Operations Standards and Training Department in Peterborough.

Applicants must be available to complete the classroom training without disruption for 12 weeks (this means no annual leave). These training courses are planned to commence in 2025, January onwards.

Didcot

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Overview
TRAINEE TRAIN MANAGER OPPORTUNITY

We are currently recruiting for Trainee Train Managers in Didcot.

TRAINING PLANS

If successful you will be required to attend a comprehensive training and assessment programme lead by our Operations Standards and Training Department in Peterborough.

Applicants must be available to complete the classroom training without disruption for 12 weeks (this means no annual leave). These training courses are planned to commence in 2025, January onwards.

 

[Shunter Bones]

I'm applying for Peterborough.

 

[Leon Tallis]

“You must live in close proximity (within 45 minutes) of West Mids”

Thats a bit vague

 

[Shunter Bones]

“You must live in close proximity (within 45 minutes) of West Mids”

Thats a bit vague

Not sure how they calculate it, Google maps, AA route planner etc but it relates to their trying to reduce fatigue, so drivers must not live more than 45 minutes from their booking on depot, so until you know where the depot vacancies are it's hard to say. Hams Hall maybe?

 

[llimma]

Not sure how they calculate it, Google maps, AA route planner etc but it relates to their trying to reduce fatigue, so drivers must not live more than 45 minutes from their booking on depot, so until you know where the depot vacancies are it's hard to say. Hams Hall maybe?

If im not mistaken, Bescot Yard is the nominal booking on point for west mids. So I imagine a 45 minute circle around that area, which probably covers Small Heath, Hams Hall, Landor St etc

 

[niceman]

Train manager being similar to a train guard?

But in the application form it says 'The train driver position is a shift based role and as a freight business we operate 24/7.'
It requests you have 'A current certified copy of your European Train Driving Certificate issued in accordance with Article 17 of Directive 2007/59/EC'

Am i reading this wrong?

 

[7819Hinton]

It’s what they call drivers. You just need full psychometric passes in the last 5 years and a clean Uk driving license, plus the other bits they’re asking for.

 

[niceman]

It’s what they call drivers. You just need full psychometric passes in the last 5 years and a clean Uk driving license, plus the other bits they’re asking for.

Thanks for the clarity.

This particular job is for a 'trainee'
When continuing with the application they are asking for
(1.) A current certified copy of your European Train Driving Certificate issued in accordance with Article 17 of Directive 2007/59/EC or (2.) A certified copy of the European Train Driving Certificate as per Office of Rail Regulation (ORR) Guide to the Train Driving Licences and Certificates Regulations Annex B5. Your previous employer will provide this.


Is this a mistake? Why would a new person applying for a trainee position have these documents?

thanks

 

[Locomok]

I applied for Bletchley a while ago and haven’t heard anything.

 

[stadler]

The job titles that these train companies are coming up with are getting so ridiculous. First we had C2C calling their Guards "Train Captains" and then Lumo calling their Drivers "Customer Drivers" and now GBRF calling their Drivers "Train Managers". Nobody would associate Train Drivers with the word "Train Managers". It seems a very odd job title for GBRF to choose.

Just out of interest why do you need a car driving licence to become a GBRF train driver? None of the passenger TOCs require this so just curious what the reason is for needing one?

 

[66701GBRF]

The job titles that these train companies are coming up with are getting so ridiculous. First we had C2C calling their Guards "Train Captains" and then Lumo calling their Drivers "Customer Drivers" and now GBRF calling their Drivers "Train Managers". Nobody would associate Train Drivers with the word "Train Managers". It seems a very odd job title for GBRF to choose.

"Now"? GBRf was established in 1999 and have called their drivers TM from the start.

Just out of interest why do you need a car driving licence to become a GBRF train driver? None of the passenger TOCs require this so just curious what the reason is for needing one?

Because the job requires driving company vehicles or hire cars.

 

[Lee898]

The job titles that these train companies are coming up with are getting so ridiculous. First we had C2C calling their Guards "Train Captains" and then Lumo calling their Drivers "Customer Drivers" and now GBRF calling their Drivers "Train Managers". Nobody would associate Train Drivers with the word "Train Managers". It seems a very odd job title for GBRF to choose.

Just out of interest why do you need a car driving licence to become a GBRF train driver? None of the passenger TOCs require this so just curious what the reason is for needing one?

GBRF will sometimes need you to take a work car or hire car to start at a location or swap with another driver or finish a duty elsewhere, sometimes Bit like Bus drivers that run back to their garage dead, or drivers that book on remotely at another location other than their normal home point.

 

[niceman]

The job titles that these train companies are coming up with are getting so ridiculous. First we had C2C calling their Guards "Train Captains" and then Lumo calling their Drivers "Customer Drivers" and now GBRF calling their Drivers "Train Managers". Nobody would associate Train Drivers with the word "Train Managers". It seems a very odd job title for GBRF to choose.

Just out of interest why do you need a car driving licence to become a GBRF train driver? None of the passenger TOCs require this so just curious what the reason is for needing one?

They are also after A European train driving certificate? Any thoughts on what this is?

I applied for Bletchley a while ago and haven’t heard anything.

Did you need to supply a copy of a certified copy of the European Train Driving Certificate as per Office of Rail Regulation when applying?

 

[stadler]

"Now"? GBRf was established in 1999 and have called their drivers TM from the start.

Because the job requires driving company vehicles or hire cars.

GBRF will sometimes need you to take a work car or hire car to start at a location or swap with another driver or finish a duty elsewhere, sometimes Bit like Bus drivers that run back to their garage dead, or drivers that book on remotely at another location other than their normal home point.

Ah many thanks for the information. I did not realise GBRF called their train drivers "Train Manager" for that long. It is a very odd job title to choose. Almost nobody is going to realise that "Train Manager" is a term for a train driver.

That is interesting to hear thar they have to drive company vehicles. I am not very familiar with how freight operations work. Out of interest how far do they generally have to drive a company car? Like is it just driving a short distance from the depot location to a nearby station or siding to change drivers? Or can it be long distance? Do some work a long distance freight journey and then swap drivers and drive all the way back to the depot?

 

[Lee898]

Ah many thanks for the information. I did not realise GBRF called their train drivers "Train Manager" for that long. It is a very odd job title to choose. Almost nobody is going to realise that "Train Manager" is a term for a train driver.

That is interesting to hear thar they have to drive company vehicles. I am not very familiar with how freight operations work. Out of interest how far do they generally have to drive a company car? Like is it just driving a short distance from the depot location to a nearby station or siding to change drivers? Or can it be long distance? Do some work a long distance freight journey and then swap drivers and drive all the way back to the depot?

Cannot recall exacts, but they may need you to start a job at a site, but you will get appropriate travel time to reach the location.

One gets a somewhat universal key to park at near lineside locations. It might mean parking at a station, too sometimes. The company and your controllers will outline everything.

Normally there is no need to start at the home depot. That's what remote booking is there for.

Drivers normally never need to go back to depot after ending their duties unless the diagram states as such.

 

[godfreycomplex]

Ah many thanks for the information. I did not realise GBRF called their train drivers "Train Manager" for that long. It is a very odd job title to choose. Almost nobody is going to realise that "Train Manager" is a term for a train driver.

I believe the term was chosen to “emphasise the responsibility given to drivers for the safe and timely delivery of their loads over and above regular driver duties” (quote presented without comment either way) but don’t quote me on that

Train Managers (guards) originated with Eurostar as a direct translation of the French chef de train, and now has different meanings depending on the company. But that’s off topic

 

[Frothy_B]

So just to clarify, they want you to have already done your psychometric testing, I'm guessing through a previous application via another FOC/TOC?

Is it even worth applying if you've not taken the psychometric testing previously?

 

[HeritageSussex]

So just to clarify, they want you to have already done your psychometric testing, I'm guessing through a previous application via another FOC/TOC?

Is it even worth applying if you've not taken the psychometric testing previously?

You don't meet the criteria they require, so they won't take your application any further.

 

[New York Giant]

Full psychometrics in the pocket, clean driving license & live less than 45 drive from the Tame Bridge end of Bescot Freight yard. But, today received my rejection email despite the fact the job is still on the board.

That stings!

Good luck to everybody else still in contention at this stage.

 

[Hrav1656]

Full psychometrics in the pocket, clean driving license & live less than 45 drive from the Tame Bridge end of Bescot Freight yard. But, today received my rejection email despite the fact the job is still on the board.

That stings!

Good luck to everybody else still in contention at this stage.

Off topic, 12 months ago I applied for trainee conductor with WMT failed on the SCAAT, applied two days ago didn’t even make the SJT got an automatic ‘won’t be considered your application’ waited all this time to apply again

 

[danchil]

Anyone heard anything?

 

[Shunter Bones]

Anyone heard anything?

Nothing yet, I think it's still being advertised. I've heard a rumour courses in Feb and March.

 

[Magnum21]

Hi guys, does anyone know what are the shift patterns with GBRf? and what sort of company it is to work with?

 

[piers1234]

Hi guys, does anyone know what are the shift patterns with GBRf? and what sort of company it is to work with?

GBrf is a FOC so there won't be much in the way of a shift pattern like a TOC.

12 hours shifts etc. Freight runs 24/7 365 days per year.

Good luck

 

[Dunc]

I applied for this just wondering if they will need me to provide my pass for my psychometric test and my medical or if there is a database shred by all TOC. And where would I get a copy from incase I need it?
TiA

 

[Class2ldn]

You'll still have to do a medical regardless. There should be a database for previous test results they can check to see if your scores are good enough for them.

 

[Dunc]

You'll still have to do a medical regardless. There should be a database for previous test results they can check to see if your scores are good enough for them.

Awesome thank you I hope I hear something

You'll still have to do a medical regardless. There should be a database for previous test results they can check to see if your scores are good enough for them.

Awesome thank you I hope I hear something

 

[Shunter Bones]

I applied for this just wondering if they will need me to provide my pass for my psychometric test and my medical or if there is a database shred by all TOC. And where would I get a copy from incase I need it?
TiA

GB Railfreight only require a standard psychometric pass, so you don't need to have done the driver fault finding test (DFFT) which make it enhanced, all results are held nationally for all TOC/FOC's to have access too. You will need another medical.

 

[Magnum21]

Anyone heard anything from GBRf?

 

[New York Giant]

Anyone heard anything from GBRf?

My application was initially declined as I didn't declare my OPC passes on my CV (this reason was confirmed when I asked which of the criteria I failed to meet). A week later my dashboard status was amended from 'end of process' to 'under review'. However, I've heard nothing since and the positions have been readvertised.