Government Plan for Drivers

[SynthD]

I don't think it's such a difficult argument to state that dualing a road and thus doubling its capacity, or removing a particular bottleneck, are different to the induced demand of, say, a Texas freeway being widened from 10 to 12 lanes.

Why, what’s the difference?

 

[Towers]

We have a rail network creaking under the strain, much needed rolling stock being sent for storage, scrapping or Mexican holidays while TOCs cancel services and punters are once again travelling cattle class. Despite the £2 fare headline, bus services away from the busy major corridors have been decimated as local councils pull funding. And, conveniently, the Labour London mayor and the Labour Welsh leadership have both embarked on different campaigns upsetting millions of motorists between them, with ULEZ and dippy Drakeford’s 20mph nonsense.

This is merely a rather golden chance for the Tories to both try and win back credibility, and votes of course, from a nation of motorists, and perhaps put a small dent in Labour’s nailed-on next election win, as well as conveniently avoiding spending on notoriously expensive public transport. It likely lacks any real meaning or direction, and is certainly not surprising - merely opportunistic!

 

[DC1989]

So absolutely nothing in the King's speech for the final parliament sitting before the election about any of this...so just as many said at the time...it's all empty words and no action from this gov (yet again)

 

[renegademaster]

Why, what’s the difference?

Theirs always a limit of demand you can induce , as seen by the plenty of road projects that cleared a bottleneck and congestion hasn't returned, the A21 in Kent has almost never seen traffic jama anymore since it's been doubled. Theirs only a finite number of people on this island.

 

[DC1989]

Ouch - so Sunak ordered a review of LTN's in his plan for drivers as a way to try and block new ones... but they were found more effective and popular than the government anticipated so they tried to bury the report.

All quite predictable

Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popular

Exclusive: Downing Street initially buried study, which Tories had hoped would strengthen arguments against traffic-reducing measures

www.theguardian.com

 

[Thirteen]

Both ULEZ and LTNs have proven to be successful, any chance Susan Hall had for the Mayorlty has gone down even further,

 

[jon0844]

She must be in minus figures by now.

 

[bramling]

Ouch - so Sunak ordered a review of LTN's in his plan for drivers as a way to try and block new ones... but they were found more effective and popular than the government anticipated so they tried to bury the report.

All quite predictable

Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popular

Exclusive: Downing Street initially buried study, which Tories had hoped would strengthen arguments against traffic-reducing measures

www.theguardian.com

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the policy, I can’t help but feel that survey is somewhat subjective. Of course people in the affected neighbourhoods are likely to be in favour, and of course they are going to reduce traffic flow through a given area. So I’m not really sure what this survey really tells us that’s particularly novel or useful.

 

[birchesgreen]

Yeah sure thats what the opponents of LTNs were saying beforehand.

 

[tomoufc]

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the policy, I can’t help but feel that survey is somewhat subjective. Of course people in the affected neighbourhoods are likely to be in favour, and of course they are going to reduce traffic flow through a given area. So I’m not really sure what this survey really tells us that’s particularly novel or useful.

The point is that it was supposed to be subjective the other way. When the government didn’t like the results, it sat on them out of embarrassment.