I'm not sure where you are drawing the line on "modern", but I do know that class 323 EMUs have a buzzer. AFAIK most stuff newer than that has a "beep" rather than a bell or buzzer, both EMU and DMU.
Thank you. That makes sense it is the same. I presumed that was the case but the 376s are the one and only class of Electrostar that has never had Guards so i was not entirely sure.
http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/features/buzzer.shtm has
but no mention of 8.
Thank you. Is that the same for both the cab and the saloon? I believe the saloon panels were retrofitted so i know some retrofitted panels often have a different sound? I guess the 334s and 460s probably have the same beep too.
Yes i believe they were indeed the same. I remember using the 378s when they had Guards until 2014 and i am pretty sure they had the same exact bell sound. I can also remember the 357s which had Guards on 12 coach formations until 2017 and the 379s which had Guards on the Manningtree to Harwich branch in 2015 and they were both the same bells too. It is a shame the Aventra trains use beeps rather than bells as they are the successor of the Electrostar trains.
Thank you. Now that you mention the 175s i believe i remember definitely hearing the 180s having a beep sound too.
Ah that sounds familar. I thought that 7 was to do with vacuum brakes or something. I wonder what 8 could have been. My only vague memory was that it was for something on the DEMUs but i might be remembering wrong.
700s (and I'm guessing probably the 717s too?) have the same beep as the 707s
Ah that sounds a bit familiar so that might be it. I used to work the Thumpers when i was a Guard but i wish my memory from back then was better.
You are probably right. I would imagine all of the Aventra trains have the same sound and all of the Desiro City trains have the same sound.
Thank you. That is good to hear they kept the bells on the saloon panels as most of the retrofitted saloon panels seen on other units seem to have newer beep sounds.
Yes the worst one is on the Desiro City trains. Much louder than the original Desiro trains. The beep sound on the Desiro City is the loudest ear piercing beep i have heard of any trains. It is as loud as the door release sounds. It also plays throughout the entire train at every single door panel.
And also in the days of guards on London Transport trains was there any guard/driver bell communication?
Northern line 1980s one bell to start I think, although my memory should not be relied upon!
and goes on to say that was the only defined bell code.
Fair point, I will amend my OP to read units currently in service.
MK5s (sleeper) are very loud beeps at panels but are not used. Dispatch is done via 2 way radios
Probably because the locos aren't wired up for driver/guard buzzers (well, beepers in this case)?
It's common dispatch procedure to not use bells/buzzers in order to keep things quiet for sleeping passengers. Riviera dispatch is with a green flag & RA.
Oh I'm not complaining but I also suspect that the 57s also don't have any means of using bells/buzzers either!
The 57s have no communications to the train. Just old fashioned brake pipe, main res pipe and train supply jumpers.
No, theres no jumper cable at present to provide comms between guard/driver, the 92s have buzzers in the cabs though. (if they still work)
Ah interesting! Wonder if that's a legacy of their original Nightstar role?
