Is it "Newcastle" or "Newcastle Central" Station?

[eroded]

Apologies for the somewhat anal question, but to settle a pub debate:

When talking about the National Rail station in Newcastle (i.e. not the Tyne and Wear Metro), is it "Newcastle" or "Newcastle Central" station?

ATOC seem to think it is just "Newcastle".

 

[ModernRailways]

Apologies for the somewhat anal question, but to settle a pub debate:

When talking about the National Rail station in Newcastle (i.e. not the Tyne and Wear Metro), is it "Newcastle" or "Newcastle Central" station?

ATOC seem to think it is just "Newcastle".

It depends. I believe it is just Newcastle officially, but I have noticed some departure boards say Newcastle Central.

 

[Zoidberg]

I grew up in the 50s and 60s knowing it as 'Newcastle Central' but at some point it's seemingly become officially known as just 'Newcastle' - but maybe 'Central' has simply been unofficially dropped as a convenience for shorter signage and such.

The plaque in the following link refers to it as "Central"

http://openplaques.org/plaques/4900

Newcastle Central Railway Station. This plaque celebrates the 150th anniversary of the station, opened by Queen Victoria on 29th August 1850 and built by the York, Newcastle and Berwick Railway.

And East Coast refers to it as 'Central'.

From http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/about-us...red-in-transformed-newcastle-central-station/

Retail and leisure units offered in transformed Newcastle Central Station

 

[AndyLandy]

I believe the official designations are "Newcastle" for the heavy rail station, and "Newcastle Central" for the Metro station associated with it.

Still, everyone I know just refers to it as "Central Station"

 

[gordonthemoron]

I thought the Metro station was just called 'Central'?

 

[AndyLandy]

I thought the Metro station was just called 'Central'?

Metro just call it "Central" and tickets are stamped with the code 'CEN' for it.

The National Rail journey planner calls it "Newcastle Central (Metro)" and it has code 'NCZ'

 

[Jonny]

I thought the Metro station was just called 'Central'?

It is Central Station... as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Station_Metro_station

 

[Eagle]

I believe the official designations are "Newcastle" for the heavy rail station, and "Newcastle Central" for the Metro station associated with it.

At least that's nice and clear-cut, unlike Edinburgh Waverley.

 

[Clip]

Me, me family and friends have always called it Central station. Even if we are talking about getting the train there.

Easier to understand than say, Birmingham International

 

[DaveNewcastle]

I believe the official designations are "Newcastle" for the heavy rail station, and "Newcastle Central" for the Metro station associated with it.

Still, everyone I know just refers to it as "Central Station"

I agree with that.

At least that's nice and clear-cut, unlike Edinburgh Waverley.

Which one? Were you thinking of Waverley North Bridge, Princes Street or General?

(Where 'Princes Street station' refers to Canal Street Station and not to the Caledonian Station on, er, Princes Street.

 

[dvboy]

Likewise Lincoln station is often referred to as Lincoln Central.

 

[Cherry_Picker]

I thought it was just a historical thing? Like many stations on the network the name has changed over the years. The station was called Newcastle upon Tyne Central for nearly 100 years and then it was renamed Newcastle shortly after British Rail was formed in 1948. As often tends to happen, the old suffix stuck.

 

[Tetchytyke]

The Metro station is "Central Station", though they're trying to make it more clear it is in Newcastle since the Metro extended out to Wearside.

What the main line station is called seems to depend. The running in boards just say Newcastle, yet the departure boards at most other stations on the ECML list it as "Newcastle Central". Locally it's still called Central Station.

 

[stut]

St Albans City and Bedford Midland are designations that also remain (in the station codes as well), although the suffixes have long since been dropped.

Many people still also refer to Darlington Bank Top, Hull Paragon, Norwich Thorpe. I suppose in the case of Darlington, it distinguishes it from North Road. And then you've got stations like Farnborough Main...

 

[hairyhandedfool]

St Albans City and Bedford Midland are designations that also remain (in the station codes as well), although the suffixes have long since been dropped....

Local residents and local road signs still refer to St Albans City as a way of differentiating it from St Albans Abbey station.

 

[stut]

Likewise Bedford Midland vs Bedford St Johns.

IIRC, the 319 train blinds still refer to St Albans City. Actually, doesn't the station entrance, too?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I thought it was just a historical thing? Like many stations on the network the name has changed over the years. The station was called Newcastle upon Tyne Central for nearly 100 years and then it was renamed Newcastle shortly after British Rail was formed in 1948. As often tends to happen, the old suffix stuck.

A perusal of the 3-letter station codes shows NCL is the code for Newcastle (no suffix).

 

[swt_passenger]

In John Addyman's 150th anniversary book on the station there are a number of early diagrams and plans, notably the 1848 drawings by the architect, John Dobson. It is referred to as 'Central Station' in all the contemporary references.

Of course in its day it was quite unusual for a town to have such a joint station, the Newcastle town council of the time put pressure on the various companies involved to build a joint station, otherwise it may have turned out completely different...

 

[Cherry_Picker]

A perusal of the 3-letter station codes shows NCL is the code for Newcastle (no suffix).

But weren't those codes introduced when the railway was being computerised in the 80s?

 

[Eagle]

A perusal of the 3-letter station codes shows NCL is the code for Newcastle (no suffix).

But what about
BHM = Birmingham New Street
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
CDF = Cardiff Central
LIV = Liverpool Lime Street
BRI = Bristol Temple Meads
and many other statins with suffixes?

 

[Muzer]

I think he's referring to the other way around - that is, looking up NCL in the official DB gives you the name "Newcastle" and not "Newcastle Central".

 

[Eagle]

Local residents and local road signs still refer to St Albans City as a way of differentiating it from St Albans Abbey station.

Local road signs and buses in Colchester refer to a station called "Colchester North", when there's never been a station with that name.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I think he's referring to the other way around - that is, looking up NCL in the official DB gives you the name "Newcastle" and not "Newcastle Central".

You hit the nail on the head....that is exactly what I meant.

I made no reference to any other station but that of Newcastle, as that was the query raised.
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But what about
BHM = Birmingham New Street
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
CDF = Cardiff Central
LIV = Liverpool Lime Street
BRI = Bristol Temple Meads
and many other statins with suffixes?

But these are not any stations that were questioned, as those five stations that are shown on your list above are all known by the full names that you show. No-one has ever queried the full station names of these five stations on this website to the best of my knowledge.

Incidentally, statins as shown on the last line of your quote above are Chloresterol-lowering medicines.

 

[142094]

Always been known as Newcastle Central. The first station was at Carliol Square, to the east of the city centre, then another one at New Bridge Street. When John Dobson built the current one, it was more centrally located and hence Newcastle Central.

The Metro station is officially Central Station Metro Station, although it is just about always shortened to Central or Central Metro.

 

[AndyLandy]

But what about
BHM = Birmingham New Street
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
CDF = Cardiff Central
LIV = Liverpool Lime Street
BRI = Bristol Temple Meads
and many other statins with suffixes?

It's so you know the difference between them and other stations in the area, so
Birmingham International/Moor Street/Snow Hill
Manchester Victoria/Oxford Road
Cardiff Queen Street/Bay
Liverpool South Parkway
Bristol Parkway

To my knowledge, there aren't any other Newcastle stations (at least, none with 'Newcastle' in the name) so there's no requirement to make the distinction that you mean 'Central'

 

[Eagle]

The Metro station is officially Central Station Metro Station, although it is just about always shortened to Central or Central Metro.

Which considering that the system extends quite a way outside Newcastle, could be quite confusing for outsiders trying to get to Newcastle.

Metrolink does the same thing, with stops called just Piccadilly and Victoria.

 

[southern442]

Wikipedia is calling Hereford 'Hereford Barrs Court'

 

[Eagle]

That was its old name, when Hereford had another station called Hereford Barton.

 

[Harlesden]

At least that's nice and clear-cut, unlike Edinburgh Waverley.

I thought Waverley was just as clear cut distinguishing the "main" station from the other stations within Edinburgh. Never visited Edinburgh but I believe Haymarket is in the city centre

 

[Zoidberg]

I thought Waverley was just as clear cut distinguishing the "main" station from the other stations within Edinburgh. Never visited Edinburgh but I believe Haymarket is in the city centre

Haymarket could be described as being on the edge of the city centre; it's no great effort to walk from there to the west end of Princes Street (Waverley is at the east end) or up Morrison Street to the top of Lothian Road.