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Llangethni/Bangor NR study

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merlodlliw

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Out in the media today, WAG have commissioned Network Rail to make a feasibility study of the line for passenger traffic.

This is one of two F Studies in Wales, the other being in the Valleys,Aberdare
area was mentioned.


source BBC Wales news 0825 today.

Also the Air link Anglesey to Cardiff funding is extended to 2013.

Will we ever get semi double tracks Wrexham to Saltney , thats gone very quiet.
 
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Ironic that we don't even recieve Welsh TV in Wrexham (unless you count the pathetic Wrexham-Rhos relay).

Partial re-opening of the Anglesey Central Railway would be very beneficial for the area, would be nice however to see which lines the other feasibility studies are looking at in particular.
 

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is this as a community railway ?
i.e. let the work be done by the Anglesey Railway Society that have been campaigning to re-open the line ?

Or will everything have to be done by Railtrack approved contractors, since this would involve through running from Bangor ?
 

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8346748.stm

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A government-initiated feasability study on the reintroduction of passenger services between Bangor and Llangefni? Where have I heard that before? Oh yes, Gwynedd County Council did the same thing in the late 80s. And the state of the track was assessed ten years ago to no immediate avail. There are so many fingers in this pie, and conflicting ideas...
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Oh but to see a railcar pull up at Llangefni station: I'd be so happy!
 

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It ain't never going to happen though and so I wish Government/ Local Government would not waste money and energy on feasibility studies. Even on Sundays, there is a reasonable direct Bus service by Crosville( Sorry Arriva). Any available monies should be invested in Bus Travel fir the area. Sorry for the negativity!
 

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Rail is a far more attractive prospect than travel by bus.The numbers appear to bear this out,even more so,if you take into account the amount of pensioners that travel free on bus services throughout the UK.The Cumbrian and Cambrian coast services,for intance, have seen big increases because of improved services both by commuter and tourist traffic.The benefits of investing in a railway line as opposed to a bus service are well documented,probably best shown in the Mansfield reopening,not only in travel itself but as a means of boosting local economies,which again,the figures bore out.
Onto the reopening of the line from Amlwch to Gaerwen which would facilitate a service from Llangefni to Bangor.I would personally go the whole hog and reopen the line from Bangor to Caernafon as well.The line up to Gaerwen is extant,but overgrown and the infrastructure either needs replacing or repairing.Stations would have to be rebuilt and much would need to be done to bring it into line with current standards.The Caernafon line needs rebuilding completely.
I am not an expert on finance,but is EU money available for schemes such as this,to these regions?.To have towns such as Llangefni and Caernafon not linked to the National Railway network is ridiculous and as someone who has expierienced the latter's traffic at first hand,I can certainly testify to that.There are also of course the smaller intermediate towns such as Llanerchymedd,which would benefit from a reopening.
 
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To have towns such as Llangefni and Caernafon not linked to the National Railway network is ridiculous.

Well to have a town like Gosport not linked up to the NR network is also ridiculuous (I think Gosport may be England's largest town without a railway, not sure on this though). All we get is constant studies into tramways and guided bus routes to Fareham, which never actually get any real progress, when what it really needs is a proper railway back.
 

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I think the criteria that govern feasability studies are actually geared against many lines getting re-opened. If Scotland can justify re-opening the Borders route which serves smallish rural communities then there must be many routes in England and Wales that have a better business case than the Borders link. I do think the fact we are in the midst of a sustained rail boom and yet we are seeing little if any rail expansion in terms of mileage being re-opened (apart from a fantastically expensive central London route) is a bit of an indictment on our political masters. We should be seeing a sustained rail building programme especially when you consider many lines are still extant and that rail is a recognised driver of economic growth.
 

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If Scotland can justify re-opening the Borders route which serves smallish rural communities then there must be many routes in England and Wales that have a better business case than the Borders link

There's plenty reopenings in Scotland that have a better business case than the Borders line - it's only being looked at for political reasons, not for any economic cost/ benefit analysis.

Still, it's easy for local politicians to talk about feasibility studies into pipe dreams like this, to give voters the impression that they are interested, whilst wasting thousands on evaluations etc
 

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Well to have a town like Gosport not linked up to the NR network is also ridiculuous (I think Gosport may be England's largest town without a railway, not sure on this though). All we get is constant studies into tramways and guided bus routes to Fareham, which never actually get any real progress, when what it really needs is a proper railway back.

'Without a railway',is becoming a difficult term to define,as I'm sure you,like myself,think of towns connected to the national network.If you use that definition you have towns such as Bury and now of course Oldham,not connected to the national network but served ,or to be served,by Metrolink,on rails ,but not conventional heavy rail.Leigh in Lancashire is a large town that has no rail connection at all,and like Gosport is subject to half baked guided bus way proposals.
 
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