Max journey times and boundary stations

[AnkleBoots]

If a station straddles two zones, which one is counted for the purposes of maximum journey times?

eg East Croydon to Notting Hill Gate travelling on a weekday lunchtime is either:

- Across 4 zones, 100 minutes, or
- Across 5 zones, 110 minutes

Thanks

 

[MikeWh]

If a station straddles two zones, which one is counted for the purposes of maximum journey times?

eg East Croydon to Notting Hill Gate travelling on a weekday lunchtime is either:

- Across 4 zones, 100 minutes, or
- Across 5 zones, 110 minutes

Thanks

Interesting question, I might have to try that out. My educated guess is that it would be 4 zones as you don't actually enter zone 2 on the Central line until the train leaves Notting Hill Gate. If using the Circle or District lines you don't enter zone 2 at all at that station.

 

[AnkleBoots]

Interesting question, I might have to try that out. My educated guess is that it would be 4 zones as you don't actually enter zone 2 on the Central line until the train leaves Notting Hill Gate. If using the Circle or District lines you don't enter zone 2 at all at that station.

I guess this means travelling via central London from zone 5 East Croydon to zone 1 or 2 Notting Hill Gate which I think counts as across 5 or 6 zones respectively for purposes of the journey times.

In fact I was thinking of travelling via Shepherds Bush and not touching zone 1 other than at Notting Hill Gate, hence 4 or 5 zones.

 

[MikeWh]

I guess this means travelling via central London from zone 5 East Croydon to zone 1 or 2 Notting Hill Gate which I think counts as across 5 or 6 zones respectively for purposes of the journey times.

Yes, you're right, that would be 5 zones. Not sure what happened to my brain earlier.

In fact I was thinking of travelling via Shepherds Bush and not touching zone 1 other than at Notting Hill Gate, hence 4 or 5 zones.

And yes, that would be 4 zones as you would indeed avoid zone 1.

Sorry for the earlier confusion.

 

[jopsuk]

If you'd be charged for 4 zones (on an oyster/contactless PAYG), the maximum journey time would be for four zones, surely?

 

[Deerfold]

If you'd be charged for 4 zones (on an oyster/contactless PAYG), the maximum journey time would be for four zones, surely?

That was how I thought it would happen.

 

[AnkleBoots]

If you'd be charged for 4 zones (on an oyster/contactless PAYG), the maximum journey time would be for four zones, surely?

That would make sense but are journeys charged purely based on number of zones?

Here are the fares for this journey.

Peak : £6.70
Off Peak: £4.80

Avoiding Zone 1 via Clapham Junction and Shepherd's Bush
Peak: £3.60
Off Peak: £2.60

Changing between National Rail and London Underground at Elephant & Castle
Peak : £6.00
Off Peak: £4.80

 

[MikeWh]

If you'd be charged for 4 zones (on an oyster/contactless PAYG), the maximum journey time would be for four zones, surely?

Well that would be my guess, yes, but in the back of my mind is an unusual scenario which suggested that dual zoned stations might be allowed time to the opposite side of the zoning. This was a few years ago, hence why I might test it out at some point in the summer.

That would make sense but are journeys charged purely based on number of zones?

Absolutely not! The fare charged depends on the mode(s) of transport used, route taken, peak/off-peak and the number of zones. You can get some idea of the complexity on my site at http://www.oyster-rail.org.uk/fares-guide/guide-to-fare-scales/.

 

[Deerfold]

That would make sense but are journeys charged purely based on number of zones?

No, but the number of zones is always relevant.