Nottingham Victoria

[suzanneparis]

During the first world war my grandmother used to work at Nottingham Victoria railway station. Her job was to use horses to move around the trains and carriages (marshalling??).

After work she often used to go with her colleagues to Yate's wine bar in Nottingham city centre - Market Square.

Does anyone have any more information/photos of those times?

 

[telstarbox]

There's a fair bit of information on Nottingham Victoria here: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n/nottingham_victoria/index.shtml

As a side note, I had no idea Yates was around in Victorian times!

 

[Busaholic]

Yates's Wine Lodges around from Victorian times : Mr Yates was a Prestonian I believe so plenty around Lancashire. There used to be a huge one in Blackpool and a couple in London near Fleet Street.

 

[GrimsbyPacer]

The clock tower of Nottingham Victoria is still around outside the shopping centre on the station site. According to Jane's World Railways 1990, the shopping centre would of had Tyne and Wear style metro trains running from the shopping centre in a subway to Nottingham station then along the then closed line to Hucknall.

 

[edwin_m]

An early idea for Nottingham Tram was to run it through the old Great Central tunnels with an underground station in what is now the Victoria car park. They then realised that tunneling under the city centre, which was where most people wanted to go, was a bad idea. Classic case of a solution in need of a problem.

 

[scandal]

An early idea for Nottingham Tram was to run it through the old Great Central tunnels with an underground station in what is now the Victoria car park. They then realised that tunneling under the city centre, which was where most people wanted to go, was a bad idea. Classic case of a solution in need of a problem.

Amongst original plans for the Victoria shopping centre was a Multiplex cinema and provision for a box tunnel underneath the shopping centre where the bottom layer of the car park now stands, however the covered tunnel from Weekday Cross to Sherwood Rise was a particular concern for diesel fumes and evacuations. In the late 1980's the alignment was considered for Nottingham's light rail transit system, although this would of provided just one station for Nottingham city centre, providing difficultly in pedestrian flows. The Kings Cross fire and subsequent legislation, which occurred at the time of the studies was the final blow to the plans.

 

[Springs Branch]

Yates's Wine Lodges around from Victorian times : Mr Yates was a Prestonian I believe so plenty around Lancashire. There used to be a huge one in Blackpool and a couple in London near Fleet Street.

Yates's Wine Lodges used to be fine, raffish, old-fashioned drinking halls, mostly located in gritty towns and cities in the North & Midlands
Apart from one single establishment at Bosley, a small village in rural Cheshire, on the A523 between Macclesfield & Leek.

I never quite understood the relationship between Bosley and the YWL's - the bars used to sell a Bosley Beef Sandwich and there was the Bosley Shopping Arcade right next door to their flagship property in Blackpool.
Maybe Mr Yates, having made his fortune from running industrial-scale boozers, bought up a country estate in deepest Cheshire - and wanted a convenient Wine Lodge in the local village? Does anyone know the story?

Seriously OT - sorry - so back to Nottingham........

 

[yorksrob]

Maybe Mr Yates, having made his fortune from running industrial-scale boozers, bought up a country estate in deepest Cheshire - and wanted a convenient Wine Lodge in the local village? Does anyone know the story?

Seriously OT - sorry - so back to Nottingham........

There was a programme on Radio 4 about the history of Yates' wine lodge a few years back, so it might be around somewhere.

 

[gordonthemoron]

also the tunnels south of Victoria Centre contain pipes for the councils local area heating system

 

[LTJ87]

Out of interest, are there are any points along Mansfield Road where the tunnel underneath it is visible?

 

[edwin_m]

Out of interest, are there are any points along Mansfield Road where the tunnel underneath it is visible?

I don't think so. The only obvious remnant is the bricked up portal which is still visible from the north end of the Victoria car parks, though it's a long time since I went to look.

http://binged.it/1FaH5Y9

Clarendon College occupies the site of Carrington station, where the booking office at street level survived as a small shop until around 1990 but the cutting was filled in long before that. Somewhere there's a manhole that gives access to the tunnel.

http://binged.it/1FaHsSt

The next portal is about here - I think this is the one where some brickwork is visible.

http://binged.it/1MzaBHH

Apart from the arches supporting Station Street tramstop and the remains of the abutments by the Trent, that's about the sum total of visible GC structure within the Nottingham city boundary.

 

[LTJ87]

I don't think so. The only obvious remnant is the bricked up portal which is still visible from the north end of the Victoria car parks, though it's a long time since I went to look.

http://binged.it/1FaH5Y9

Clarendon College occupies the site of Carrington station, where the booking office at street level survived as a small shop until around 1990 but the cutting was filled in long before that. Somewhere there's a manhole that gives access to the tunnel.

http://binged.it/1FaHsSt

The next portal is about here - I think this is the one where some brickwork is visible.

http://binged.it/1MzaBHH

Apart from the arches supporting Station Street tramstop and the remains of the abutments by the Trent, that's about the sum total of visible GC structure within the Nottingham city boundary.

Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look when I'm next in Notts.

 

[suzanneparis]

Thank you so much for the interesting posts. Thoroughly enjoyed reading them all.

However, sorry to be pedantic but the first world war was after Queen Victoria had died!

My grandmother loved her job looking after the horses which led to a lifetime love of betting on horse races! She was remarkably successful. Though only with very small sums of money.

Thanks again everyone.