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Does anyone remember the Post Bus services? I would love to hear if anyone else used these buses and have any memories of it?

I have used the Post Bus many times over the years. I grew up in a rural village and used the Post Bus multiple times a week when i was younger as it was the only bus that served where i lived. In the late 1960s (which is i believe when they began as i remember riding on them during the first week and reading about it in the news) and 1970s and 1980s and 1990s there was hundreds and hundreds of routes. I have always had an interest in them and have ridden on multiple routes all over, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Berkshire, until they were gone. In the South East there was lots and i think they were all over the country too.

The buses were just small Royal Mail vans with four seats (one seat next to the driver and three seats behind the driver) for passengers. So very little capacity. I believe some busier routes used larger vans with eight seats but most of the ones i used in the South East only had four seats.

It was during the late 2000s and early 2010s that they had a mass withdrawal of all of them. So around the same time that Royal Mail was privatised.

I remember even up until the late 2000s or early 2010s there was quite a few routes in Surrey and Sussex around Dorking and Guildford and Horsham and Tunbridge Wells and surrounding areas. There was a few in Wiltshire around Salisbury and in Hampshire around the New Forest up until around then too. It was really during the 2000s that they started to rapidly withdraw them.

I think i remember it was 2017 when the final routes were withdrawn which were some rural Scottish Highlands services. I think the Scottish Highland had many Post Bus services.

One thing i loved is that you could pay your bus fare with stamps. Many times i used stamps instead of cash to pay. Also regardless of whether you paid with stamps or cash the tickets were simply a piece of card where the driver would stick some postage stamps making up the value of your fare and then stamp an ink stamp over them. Then the driver would write with a pen whether it was a Single or Return and where you boarded and alighted. It was such a unique ticketing system. Even up until the late 2000s and early 2010s this ticketing system was still used and the fares were incredibly cheap too.

It is such a shame they were withdrawn. It was such a fantastic idea. The driver has to deliver post anyway so you might as well take passengers too and provide a public transport service to rural areas. I remember in later years the issue was there was less post and more packages so they needed more space in the vans and carrying passengers reduced the space. It is a shame they could not find a way to continue the Post Bus services.

Does anyone else have any memories of using these Post Bus services? I would be very interested to hear about anyone else experience of these?
 
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There used to be a postbus service from Chippenham to Reading and back on a Sunday along the A4. I once travelled on it from Reading to Chippenham around 1997, shortly before it was withdrawn. I seem to recall the fare was £1.
 

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I've used the one from Northallerton to Constable Burton (well before the Wensleydale Railway was a thing). A lovely little quirk, calling in at post offices and postboxes along the way. In the days of post twice daily, they made a lot of sense in rural areas, because the timings gave you a useful "out and back", but probably less so now the postal service is very much on the wane. If I recall rightly it was an LDV post van but with 6 seats in the back.
 

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I've never used them, but I recall seeing them on travels throughout the Highlands. In one of my old fleetbooks (Bus Handbook 10 - Scotland) there are over 120 vehicles listed. I'm not sure if this fleet was for the whole of Scotland, or just the Highlands - the address given was "Postbus Controller, Royal Mail Inverness".

The types listed were:
  • Ford Sierra estate
  • Peugeot 405 estate
  • Land Rover 90
  • Freight Rover/DAF
From a much older book, I can recall seeing various Rootes Group products - Avengers, Commer vans and the like. Sadly, that book has gone missing.
 

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There used to be a postbus service from Chippenham to Reading and back on a Sunday along the A4. I once travelled on it from Reading to Chippenham around 1997, shortly before it was withdrawn. I seem to recall the fare was £1.

It used to do a tour of the Chippenham area in the morning, and when it entered Colerne barracks a soldier had to ride with you who got off when leaving.
 

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I went on a few. One was a circular based on Tunbridge Wells. One was from Durness to Lairg. My favourite was the one on Bressay in Shetland. You took the ferry from Lerwick with the post, then the postman met the ferry to collect the post and any passengers. There were only two timing points, both the ferry slip (dep and arr). It was a car, and I got a guided tour of the island for about 3 or 4 hours before getting the ferry back to the "mainland". Fabulous!
I also wanted to do one based on Abergavenny but could never make it work.
I still have a couple of postbus timetable books that the Royal Mail used to print.
I don't remember the postage stamp ticket though.
 

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There was one that used to run where I grew up in rural East Surrey. Used to run from Redhill - Nutfield - Outwood - Smallfield - Redhill. I used it once in the 90s with my mum for interest. Also used it on a Beavers trip to visit the Post Office sorting office at the station.

Always used to be a LDV Convoys minibus. The ones with the REALLY loud revving engines.

Now the village gets just a postie with a tiny Citroen Nemo car van whenever I'm back visiting. That or only 3 buses a day despite only being 6 miles from Redhill!
 

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Remember using a Freight Rover one in Crewe, in the 90s (can't remember where I was going to

Wonder if they could be viable again ?
 
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It has only really just occurred to me - what licences would the drivers of Post Buses need to have held in order to convey passengers?

If the vehicle was simply a 4-seat estate car, I can't see them having to hold a full bus licence, but there must have been some kind of permit required. A scheduled service with a minibus would probably be covered under a Section 22 Permit these days.

Or was it simply the case that Post Buses were special and had their own arrangements?
 

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It has only really just occurred to me - what licences would the drivers of Post Buses need to have held in order to convey passengers?

If the vehicle was simply a 4-seat estate car, I can't see them having to hold a full bus licence, but there must have been some kind of permit required. A scheduled service with a minibus would probably be covered under a Section 22 Permit these days.

Or was it simply the case that Post Buses were special and had their own arrangements?
I also wondered whether they would have to be registered with the Traffic Commissioner.
 

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Does anyone remember the Post Bus services? I would love to hear
I used the Dorking - Ockley (Surrey) route several times, and used some post buses on Barra, North and South Uist and Benbeccula.

My wife and I attempted to use the Wells -Priddy (Somerset) route, with odd results. Waiting outside a pub along the route, we saw a Post Office vehicle coming into sight and waved. It stopped - and we saw it was an ordinary Post Office van, not a bus. The driver said that there had been no passengers that morning on the trip into Wells, so he had assumed there would be none on the return trip (most passengers usually making return journeys) and had brought out a van instead of the bus. He invited us to travel to Priddy in the back of the van among the mailbags. We did, but did not appear in the official record as he refused to accept fares from us, saying he had not brought along the ticket machine, and there would be trouble if he tried to pay in fares at the depot when he had been driving a van.
 

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I remember Post Bus services in Malton, Driffield, Louth and Market Rasen from my time at RM. I even used one back in the day from Fort William - which was a rancid Peugeot 405 estate.

The main problem with the original concept was that on a delivery round, the postbus was painfully slow. The ones on collection duties worked somewhat better albeit it still slow!
 

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The only Postbus I ever used was from Alston to Brampton, many years ago. It was basically a crewcab van, with IIRC 6 plus driver at the front and the mail bags in the back. We left Alston full. Against all odds another passenger joined at Halton Lea Gate. He spent the journey locked amongst the bags of mail in the back cage :) It has to be said, that was probably one of the most sociable bus journeys I've ever taken, all strangers and the postman just chatting and getting along.
 

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Britain's first Post Bus service was introduced on 20th February 1967. It ran between Llanidloes and Llangurig and was a commer/Dodge Superbus
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Wonder if they could be viable again ?
Maybe, but it would have to be on to the more rural services in which Royal Mail could trial a service on.

The examples I can think of is the former Pennine operated Skipton town routes (e.g. Embsay and Malham), two for West Sussex so Storrington to Horsham via Danehill, Dial Post, Shipley, Copsale, Nuthurst and Mannings Heath with the other being Rusper to Horsham via Faygate, Colgate and Roffey. At a push maybe also the service 43 Calne to Headington circular could be absorbed into Postbus operation. Another county where such scheme would work well would be in Somerset (whilst typing this I've got Future Sound of London - Papa New Guninea playing in the background) especially in Frome where it could replace the town service - it'd be a sight seeing an Optare Solo painted up in Royal Mail livery.
 

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The main thing that makes them non-viable is that there isn't in most places now post twice a day. A bus service of this kind isn't going to be much use if you can't go into town in the morning and come back in the afternoon. With two collections/deliveries a day this worked, now it doesn't.
 
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