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Thanet Bus Changes - April 2019

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Between 22nd November and 19th December 2018 there was a consultation on the Kent County Council (KCC) contract routes in Thanet operated by Stagecoach. The changes will go ahead, and new and revised services have been registered by Stagecoach, and new timetables are available on Traveline now. You can see the consulation here: https://consultations.kent.gov.uk/consult.ti/thanetconsultation/consultationHome

The KCC routes operated by Stagecoach are:
* 38/38A (Palm Bay - Broadstairs - Ramsgate - Manston - Acol - Birchington, with various school and peak time variations).
* 39/39A (Dumpton Park - Ramsgate - St Peters, with the 39A being a school variation).
* 42/42A (Monkton - Minster - Cliffsend - Ramsgate, with one journey extended to Westwood and Margate, with the 42A being a school variation)
* 56 (Broadstairs - Westwood - Dane Valley - Cliftonville - Margate)
They were previously all Eastonways routes, before that operator collapsed. Some of the other former Eastonways routes were withdrawn soon after Stagecoach took over them.

NB: The documents give the impression that the routes they talk about are the only KCC-funded routes in Thanet. There are two other routes, both operated by Regent Coaches - the 35 (a local route between Mountfield Way estate at Westgate to Margate and Westwood) and the 36 (Margate QEQM Hospital - Birchington - Herne Bay, which doesn't do anything unique in Thanet, with its main aim to connect Thanet with Herne Bay).

Summary of changes:

* Route 38/38A will be withdrawn. The eastern section (Palm Bay - Ramsgate) will be replaced by diverting the existing 33 (Margate-Broadstairs) over the 38 route, and extending the 33 to Ramsgate along the current 38 route. As the 33 runs to Margate, this will benefit Margate and Cliffsend residents with a new direct link to the Palm Bay surgery. Also, this section of route remains hourly, so not much of a difference here really. The western section of route 38 (Ramsgate - Birchington) will be replaced by new route 48 (Dumpton-Ramsgate-Manston-Acol-Birchington), which seems to cover all the route and its variations, but the main frequency reduced from hourly to every 90min.
* Route 39/39A will be withdrawn, with the Dumpton Park-Ramsgate section replaced by new route 48, with less journeys than before. The Ramsgate - St Peters ASDA section won't be replaced, and it doesn't need to be as few people use it, and alternative journeys can be made on the 34 and LOOP.
* Route 42/42A will be withdrawn. Route 9 currently by-passes the Monkton and Minster villages, but some journeys on existing route 9 (Westwood-Ramsgate-Canterbury) will be diverted to serve the villages. I was expecting the 9 to divert some of its early morning journeys (as was proposed in consultation), opening up a new market for commuter travel (the route is very popular at peak times with school and college students, and to a lesser extent workers) from Monkton and Minster, but these plans have been shelved looking at the timetable on Traveline (but still has all the evening peak journeys diverting to serve the villages). Cliffsend will no longer have a link to Minster (for doctor's surgery).
* Route 56 will be withdrawn. New route 37 will replace it following the same route, except will omit Dane Valley and Cliftonville. This means Dane Valley (a large ex-council housing estate) will no longer have a direct bus route to Westwood Cross, Thanet's most popular shopping area (but can still use frequent route 32 to Margate to change to the frequent LOOP). 56 is currently hourly, but the 37 will be less frequent.


Other changes:
* Relatively new route 43 (Canterbury - Wingham - Sandwich - Ramsgate) will no longer operate between Sandwich and Ramsgate (although the current Ramsgate journeys will still operate north of Sandwich to Discovery Park). This will be replaced by new route 45 (Sandwich - Ramsgate), operating to the same hourly frequency. which will also operate around an estate at Nethercourt which the 42 currently serves. Having the 43 and 45 serving Discovering Park (where many businesses including Hornby are based) will have a half-hourly service, probably the best its ever had. From an enthusiasts point of view, it would be great to see the 43 numbered back to the traditional 13 again, seeing as it no longer operates in Thanet which number fits in to the local network.
* Routes 8/8A/8X, 32, 34 all have minor timetable changes
* Peak route 40 withdrawn.
* Route 11 has minor timetable changes, as this route is interworked with the 9. The 11 is an infrequent, rural but surprisingly commercial route.
* The LOOP has minor timetable changes. For some reason, the new timetable has appeared on Traveline as routes 49 and 52. I'm presuming this is a mistake, as I would be very surprised to see Stagecoach giving their successful LOOP route numbers again. The Loop has always been officially registered as 49 and 52, with its public ID as LOOP, so this is why I think it might just a mistake in its translation to Traveline.
 
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Stagecoach have published their interpretation of the changes on their website:

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-19/03/2019-16:42:51:530

Many of the bus routes in Thanet are operated by Stagecoach on a commercial basis without any funding from the council. However, for many years Kent County Council (KCC) has funded the operation of some services which, while not commercially viable, have been considered important to the local community.

At the end of last year KCC launched a consultation on proposals to withdraw funding for some of the council supported bus routes in the area. Stagecoach was asked if it could make changes to its existing bus network to help keep bus journey opportunities in areas affected by the loss of council funded services.

In January the council met to look at the feedback from the consultation and make a recommendation on the proposals. The recommendation was to proceed and the council decided to do so. Details of the consultation and the final report can be found on the KCC website here

Since then we’ve been working closely with the council’s Public Transport team on making further adjustments to the bus timetables to reflect the concerns and feedback raised during the consultation. We’ve now finalised all the details so you can view the full timetables which will begin operating from Sunday 7 April.

Here’s a summary of the changes route by route with links to the new timetables:

Routes 8, 8A, 8X ‘Breeze’
Some Monday to Saturday morning bus times will be adjusted. Sunday and Bank Holiday bus times remain unchanged.
view the new ‘Breeze’ 8 8A 8X timetable here

Route 9 & 9X
If you use this service you’ll need to check out the new timetable because some bus times will change. All route 9 buses will serve Minster and Monkton. They will also serve the Tesco Extra on the way out towards Broadstairs. Peak-time route 9X buses will continue to run a direct service to and from Canterbury (not serving Minster or Monkton). There will be a new evening route 9X bus from Canterbury to Ramsgate at 1910.
view the new route 9/9X timetable here

Route 11
There’ll be some adjustments to bus times to help improve the reliability of the service.
view the new route 11 timetable here

Route 32
There are some minor changes to bus times to help with timekeeping. The schoolday morning bus between Margate and Garlinge will be replaced with a new route 932 journey (see school-time buses below).
view the new route 32 timetable here

Route 33
This route will be altered and extended to cover sections that are currently served by KCC route 38 in the east of Thanet.
Route 33 will continue to run an hourly daytime service through Margate, Kingsgate and Broadstairs but will be rerouted to include Eastern Esplanade, Palm Bay Avenue and Northdown Park. After Broadstairs the route will extend to serve East Dumpton and Ramsgate Harbour.
view the new route 33 timetable here

Route 34
This route will remain unchanged (except that in Minnis Bay buses will run along Dane Road instead of Arthur Road). Most bus times will be different, so please check the new timetable if you use this service.
view the new route 34 timetable here

Route 37
This is a new bus route that will replace most sections that are covered by the existing KCC route 56.
New route 37 will run during the daytime on Mondays to Saturdays, serving Stanley Road and Lanthorne Road, Broadstairs, St Peter’s Surgery, Rumfields, Westwood Cross, Asda (Westwood Road) and then St Peter’s Road to and from Margate.
view the new route 37 timetable here

Route 38 & 38A
These KCC routes will be replaced by route 33 in east Thanet and by new route 48 in west Thanet (between Birchington and Ramsgate).

Route 39
This route will be replaced by nearby alternative options on existing Stagecoach bus routes. A new route 48 will replace the service in Sherwood Gardens and Dumpton, offering a Monday to Saturday daytime link to Ramsgate.

Route 40
This morning and evening service will no longer operate. Unfortunately very few people made use of this service.

Routes 42 & 42A
KCC route 42 will be replaced by route 9 in Monkton and Minster and new route 45 in Ramsgate and the Nethercourt Estate. Cliffsend will have access to the new 45 service on Sandwich Road.
Route 42A will no longer operate, but new arrangements will be available using school-time routes 943 for Minster and Monkton and routes 942 and 944 for Cliffsend.

Route 43
This route will no longer extend into Thanet. Buses will run between Sandwich and Canterbury with one bus an hour extending to Discovery Park. A new route 45 will operate between Ramsgate and Sandwich via Discovery Park. Don’t worry if you use the 43 to travel beyond Sandwich towards Deal - buses will still run through. Some Monday to Saturday bus times will change. Sunday and Bank Holiday bus times will remain the same.
view the new route 43 timetable here

Route 45 & 45A
This new route will replace the existing 43 service between Ramsgate and Sandwich. It also replaces the existing KCC route 42 service in Ramsgate and the Nethercourt Estate.
Route 45/45A will run hourly throughout the day on Mondays to Saturdays.
view the new route 45/45A timetable here

Route 48 & 48A
This new route will replace the existing KCC route 38 and 38A in the west of Thanet (Birchington, Acol, Manston, St Lawrence and Ramsgate). It will also extend to Dumpton replacing the existing KCC route 39 in that area.
The existing route 38A journeys will be renumbered 48A (some bus times will change slightly).
view the new route 48/48A timetable here

Route 56
This KCC bus route will be largely replaced by a new route 37. Route 37 will run during the daytime on Mondays to Saturdays, serving Stanley Road and Lanthorne Road, Broadstairs, St Peter’s Surgery, Rumfields, Westwood Cross, Asda (Westwood Road) and then St Peter’s Road to and from Margate.

Loop
Some bus times will be adjusted to help improve the reliability of the service.
view the new Loop timetable here

Here’s the new Thanet bus network map showing the new routes.

Printed timetable leaflets will be available on bus and from local outlets by 30 March.

If you have any questions or are unsure about how these changes will affect you, then let us know. You can Tweet us @StagecoachSE, or send us an email at [email protected] using the subject header Thanet timetable changes.

School-time bus services

From the 23 April, after the Easter holiday when the schools go back, there will be some changes to school-time bus routes and timetables. Here’s a summary of the main changes:

Route 932
• An extra route 932 bus will operate from Margate to Minnis Bay via Hartsdown Academy in the morning.
• The existing morning and afternoon journeys will be retimed to better suit the start and finish times at King Ethelbert School and Ursuline College.

Route 933
• The morning bus from Kingsgate through Broadstairs, Ramsgate and Newington to Dane Court School will be retimed slightly to improve punctuality.
• The 1438 bus from St George’s School to Newington, Ramsgate and Dumpton will be slightly retimed to improve timekeeping.
• The afternoon bus from Charles Dickens School to Newington and Ramsgate will no longer operate. An alternative bus is available on route 34 from Westwood Road at 1531.

Route 942
• The morning journey that starts from Cliffsend at 0710 will begin 9 minutes earlier at 0701 and run several minutes earlier through Minster, Acol, Birchington, Minnis Bay, Westgate, Garlinge, Margate to arrive more punctually at Dane Court and St George’s Schools.

Route 943
• The morning journey from Minster will depart 14 minutes earlier at 0716 and run several minutes earlier through Monkton, St Nicholas, Birchington, Westgate and Hartsdown College in order to arrive more punctually at Dane Court and St George’s Schools.

Route 945
• This morning bus will be replaced by a route 8X bus from Birchington Square at 0737 running direct to Margate and then Dane Court and St George’s Schools.

Route 948
• The morning route 948 short journey from Margate to St George’s School will no longer operate. An alternative service is provided using the new 8X bus from Margate Council Offices at 0756.
• The morning bus from The Wheatsheaf towards Margate will depart 9 minutes earlier at 0740. This is so the bus can arrive more punctually at Dane Court and St George’s Schools.

Route 989
• The morning bus from Minnis Bay will depart 8 minutes earlier at 0709 and run a few minutes earlier through Birchington and Westgate to Margate.



Route Timetable Updates Thanet Updated 20 Mar 2019, 16:03
 
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