The Seaside Express 1Z47

[visibleimagery]

Hello alll

Does any body have any times for this excursion on Saturday 15th August hauled by 2x DRS 47's...?
Approx Exeter...?


Thanks,

Matt

 

[matt]

CHESTRFLD 07.06 07:13
CHESTFDSJ PASS 07:15
CLAYXNTHJ PASS 07:17
ALFRETON 07:24 07:26
IRONVILJN PASS 07:30
LANGLEYML 07:34 07:36
TROWELSJN PASS 07:42
TOTONCENT PASS 07:53
TOTONJCN PASS 07:55
TRENTEAST PASS 07:59
TRENTSTHJ PASS 08:00
RATCLIFJN PASS 08:04
EASTMIDPW 08:05 08:08
LOUGHBNJN PASS 08:22
LOUGHBORO 08:23 08:25
SILEBY JN PASS 08:29
SYSTONSJN PASS 08:31
LEICESTER 08:36 08:38
WIGSTNNJN PASS 08:42
CROFT JN PASS 08:48
HINCKLEY PASS 08:53
NUNEATON 08:58 09:01
NUNEATNAJ PASS 09:04
WHITACREJ PASS 09:15
COLESHLPW 09:18 09:21
WATERORTN PASS 09:24
LANDORSTJ PASS 09:31
PROOFHSEJ PASS 09:32
BHAMNEWST 09:35 09:40
SELLY OAK PASS 09:47
KINGSNRTN PASS 09:50
LONGBRIDG PASS 09:53
BARNT GRN PASS 09:55
BROMSGROV PASS 09:58
STOKEWKJN PASS 09:59
ABBOTWDJN PASS 10:06
ASHCHURCH PASS 10:14
CHELTENHM PASS 10:20
GLOSBARNJ PASS 10:25
GLOS YDJN PASS 10:26
STANDISHJ PASS 10:30
CHARFIELD PASS 10:39
YATE PASS 10:45
WESTRLGHJ PASS 10:48
BRISPKWAY PASS 10:54
FILTON AW PASS 10:55
NARRWAYHJ PASS 10:59
DR DAYSJN PASS 11:02
BRISTOLEJ PASS 11:03
BRISTOLTM 11:05 11:07
BTLWESTJN PASS 11:08
WORLE JN PASS 11:21
UPHILL JN PASS 11:23
BRIDGWATR PASS 11:32
COGLOAD J PASS 11:37
TAUNTON PASS 11:40
NORTNFZWJ PASS 11:41
WHITEBALL PASS 11:48
TIVERTNPW PASS 11:50
TIVERTNLP PASS 11:52
COWLEYBDG PASS 12:02
EXETSTDAV PASS 12:04
DAWLISHWN 12:19 12:29
DAWLISH PASS 12:31
TEIGNMTH PASS 12:34
NEWTONABT PASS 12:41
NEWTONAWJ PASS 12:42
TORQUAY 12:51 12:54
PAIGNTON 12:58

PAIGNTON 16:39
TORQUAY 16:43 16:46
NEWTONAWJ PASS 16:56
NEWTONABT PASS 16:56
TEIGNMTH PASS 17:02
DAWLISH PASS 17:05
DAWLISHWN PASS 17:06
EXETSTDAV PASS 17:16
COWLEYBDG PASS 17:17
TIVERTNLP PASS 17:27
TIVERTNPW PASS 17:29
WHITEBALL PASS 17:31
NORTNFZWJ PASS 17:38
TAUNTON PASS 17:39
COGLOAD J PASS 17:42
BRIDGWATR PASS 17:46
UPHILL JN PASS 17:55
WORLE JN PASS 17:57
PARSON ST PASS 18:11
BTLWESTJN PASS 18:14
BRISTOLTM PASS 18:15
BRISTOLEJ PASS 18:16
DR DAYSJN PASS 18:17
NARRWAYHJ PASS 18:19
FILTON AW PASS 18:22
BRISPKWAY PASS 18:24
WESTRLGHJ PASS 18:28
YATE PASS 18:31
CHARFIELD PASS 18:37
STANDISHJ PASS 18:46
GLOS YDJN PASS 18:50
GLOSBARNJ PASS 18:57
CHELTENHM PASS 19:03
ASHCHURCH PASS 19:09
ABBOTWDJN PASS 19:16
STOKEWKJN PASS 19:24
BROMSGROV PASS 19:26
BARNT GRN PASS 19:31
LONGBRIDG PASS 19:33
KINGSNRTN PASS 19:35
SELLY OAK PASS 19:39
BHAMNEWST 19:48 19:59
PROOFHSEJ PASS 20:01
LANDORSTJ PASS 20:03
WATERORTN PASS 20:08
COLESHLPW 20:12 20:15
WHITACREJ PASS 20:18
NUNEATNAJ PASS 20:29
NUNEATON 20:32 20:34
HINCKLEY PASS 20:41
CROFT JN PASS 20:46
WIGSTNNJN PASS 20:51
LEICESTER 20:58 21:09
SYSTONSJN PASS 21:14
SILEBY JN PASS 21:16
LOUGHBORO 21:20 21:23
EASTMIDPW 21:30 21:33
TRENTSTHJ PASS 21:36
TRENTEAST PASS 21:37
TOTONJCN PASS 21:39
TOTONCENT PASS 21:40
TROWELSJN PASS 21:44
LANGLEYML 21:49 21:52
IRONVILJN PASS 21:57
ALFRETON 22:01 22:03
CLAYXNTHJ PASS 22:11
CHESTFDSJ PASS 22:13
CHESTRFLD 22:15 22.25


Times from Mark Honey at rail-blue charters

 

[visibleimagery]

Whey hey...

Thanks a lot, wasn't expecting a reply quite so soon, especially in so much detail...

Many, many thanks

Matt,

 

[Billr]

Apparently 47501 is now on it's own and is 50 minutes down.

47802 has Circuit breaker issues, they kept engaging emergency brakes 47802 has been removed at Exeter

 

[devon_metro]

Just arrived Birmingham 61L

 

[mallard]

Left Loughborough approx 22:18. I was on it!

The locomotive problems started almost as soon as we left Paignton. Brakes applied suddenly, but we got going again. Same thing happened a little while later and possibly a third time before we arrived at Newton Abbot. Made an unscheduled stop (about 15-20 mins) there for the problem to be investigated and we were told it had something to do with the multiple working equipment and a circuit breaker being tripped. This was apparently reset and the announcer seemed to indicate all was well again. Another sudden stop next to a green signal (on a tangential note, how come the signal was still green when it was next to the second coach (4th vehicle), shouldn't it go red as soon as the loco passes?) We continued at low speed to Exeter where we stopped for another 30ish minutes and the loco was removed and placed in the yard. Staff on board indicated the fault was related to ETH equipment, but the announcement informing us of the removed loco and a 30-35 minute delay did not mention this.

The train then continued at low speed until we passed Bristol Temple Meads (without the scheduled stop) and picked up speed after that. Apparently two HSTs were stuck behind us, one of them for Manchester (Anyone know which?). Arrived Birmingham approx 20:55, Coleshill Parkway approx 21:10, Nuneaton 21:30, Leicester 21:55, Loughborough 22:15 (leaving 22:18 ).

 

[visibleimagery]

I knew something was up...

I got some video today at St. Thomas and St. Davids, both of which where not my first choices.
I intially wanted to go to Exminster for the 'down' shot, but got stuck in traffic on Exe bridges, so my only choice was to dive into St. Thomas.

...Then in the evening I went with my dad to a field just past Cowley bridge to get them passing through. We waited their for nealy an hour and saw a couple of 'trams' and 'slugs', and a nice grasshopper in the field, but nothing else. So we decided to head home, fortunately I decided to drive pass St. Davids, as we could have gone a different way not seeing the station at all, but good job we did as there it was, well one of them anyway! So we dived in to the car park next to the level crossing as the gates were down, thinking she was on the move, but as it turned out it wasn't her and a tram instead, we were waiting their for a good 10 mins. In hindsight we should have driven back to the field as she would have had to wait for the 'tram' to clear.

I will post a link to my vid on yubetube when completed.

Thanks all,

Matt

 

[MCR247]

Tram? :?

 

[2030720310]

tram? :?

hst

 

[43034 The Black Horse]

Slugs?

Didn't know 37/9s where working on the mainline!

 

[visibleimagery]

Yes indeed HST's, I've always used that term for them for the obvious associational reason.

'Slugs', I use this to refer to Voyagers because of the fact they seem to breakdown when a 'little' sea salt washes onto them along the seawall...!

 

[driver9000]

Regarding the signal query, not all signals are first wheel replacement some signals wont return to danger to until the train has passed the overlap but the signal in rear wont change to a proceed aspect until the signal in question has returned to danger. Ive seen whole 390 sets be well beyond a signal before it returns to danger

 

[Turbostar]

'Slugs', I use this to refer to Voyagers because of the fact they seem to breakdown when a 'little' sea salt washes onto them along the seawall...!

Voyagers haven't had this problem as such for a number of years now, as they were modified when the problem arose, it was to do with the resistors on the roof for the rheostatic braking system, & the control software was modified accordingly to stop this. Also, calling them 'Slugs' will confuse people, & possibly annoy them, as 'Slugs' are associated with 37/9s, not Voyagers. :roll:

 

[visibleimagery]

Oh well, sorry if I have insulted you in anyway, and sorry to all of you who don't like me calling them slugs... :-x

Personally I dislike the Voyager, it lacks any sense of charisma, just my opinion, so this is not a point to start a massive argument over this and anything else.

Right...!

 

[25322]

Regarding the signal query, not all signals are first wheel replacement some signals wont return to danger to until the train has passed the overlap but the signal in rear wont change to a proceed aspect until the signal in question has returned to danger. Ive seen whole 390 sets be well beyond a signal before it returns to danger

This will depend on the overlap of the track circuit/signal setup, once a signal has reset to danger the signal behind (in rear) will not show a clear/proceed aspect until the track circuit for the signal just passed has been cleared (sometimes ona time delay). You wouldn't want a train coming into a section that is occupied, as the train might be that long the tail end is only just clear of the signal in rear.

As for the 390 been well past the signal this is due to the lenght of the overlaps beyond the signal as it probably due to the signal protecting a junction of some description.