Through journey via Manchester: "These tickets will not cover your travel between Manchester Piccadilly (MAN) and Manchester Victoria (MCV)"

[brasseagle]

I'm looking to book tickets from Cheadle Hulme (CHU) near Stockport, to Dinsdale (DND) near Darlington on Saturday 25th May, returning Wednesday 29th May. I'm looking for flexibility, so Advances are out. Using the forum's website, it's offering me outbound journeys CHU -> Manchester Piccadilly (MAN) -> Manchester Victoria (MCV) -> Darlington thence Dinsdale. Ticket type is Off Peak Return (SVR). However, it is displaying the message:
"Outbound: These tickets will not cover your travel between Manchester Piccadilly (MAN) and Manchester Victoria (MCV). You may want to use other transport methods to get between these stations."
I can understand that the tickets will not cover "other transport methods", but there are there not trains between Piccadilly and Victoria? Also, I know there are other options not via Manchester (from FastJP), but the forum's journey planner insists on outbound via Piccadilly and Victoria.

 

[Lancs]

I'm looking to book tickets from Cheadle Hulme (CHU) near Stockport, to Dinsdale (DND) near Darlington on Saturday 25th May, returning Wednesday 29th May. I'm looking for flexibility, so Advances are out. Using the forum's website, it's offering me outbound journeys CHU -> Manchester Piccadilly (MAN) -> Manchester Victoria (MCV) -> Darlington thence Dinsdale. Ticket type is Off Peak Return (SVR). However, it is displaying the message:
"Outbound: These tickets will not cover your travel between Manchester Piccadilly (MAN) and Manchester Victoria (MCV). You may want to use other transport methods to get between these stations."
I can understand that the tickets will not cover "other transport methods", but there are there not trains between Piccadilly and Victoria? Also, I know there are other options not via Manchester (from FastJP), but the forum's journey planner insists on outbound via Piccadilly and Victoria.

Free bus 2... https://www.tfgm.com/public-transport/bus/free-bus

 

[Tetchytyke]

I can understand that the tickets will not cover "other transport methods", but there are there not trains between Piccadilly and Victoria?

There are, but only one direct train an hour (Airport-Saltburn) and this is on the opposite side of the hour to the direct train from Victoria to Darlington. So the journey planner will send you on the fixed link between the two stations as it is quicker.

Try playing around with asking for a longer connection time so it might push you onto the Airport-Saltburn changing at York, or failing that try adding Salford Crescent as a via point?

EDIT: there is engineering work on the 25th, with all TPE trains diverted via Hebden Bridge and Brighouse. This has the knock on effect of the Saltburn trains starting from Victoria not the Airport. If you don’t want to pay for the tram you can walk or try and specify via Salford Crescent.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

There don't appear to be trains Pic-Vic on Sat 25th May - but there's always the tram (£1.70) or if there's time it's walkable in 20 mins or so.
TPE are avoiding Huddersfield on that day too, so trains from Victoria run via Todmorden and Dewsbury to Leeds.

Realtime Trains | Departures from Manchester Victoria all day on 25/05/2024

Train information at Manchester Victoria all day on 25/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Seems just to be the one direct TPE train from Manchester Piccadilly to Victoria listed on Saturday 25th May 2024, and, *if* it's actually running, that's at 0526.

Presume the issue is indeed the engineering work taking place in the Huddersfield area.

Tram fare across Manchester city centre (single) is actually £1.40. Otherwise the options are to walk, get a taxi, interchange at Salford Crescent rail station, or use Free Bus # 2, which operates from 0700 on a Saturday.

 

[brasseagle]

Many thanks for all the replies. I must admit, it hadn't occurred to me that there might be engineering work affecting the journey (duh!). I was hoping to avoid going multi-modal, as I'll be taking luggage with me, but I'll weigh up the options that have been pointed out for me. I'm also slightly wary of a break of journey where I get off at one station and re-join at another - will the ticket barriers be able to cope?

 

[najaB]

I'm also slightly wary of a break of journey where I get off at one station and re-join at another - will the ticket barriers be able to cope?

Probably. But even if they don't, barriers aren't the arbiters of ticket validity so just show your tickets and ask to be let through.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

On the return journey on the 29th TPE seem to be running via Huddersfield so you could change there, or at Leeds, from a Newcastle-Vic-Liverpool service to a Hull-Pic one, and avoid the awkward Vic-Pic crossing.
On the outward trip, without your planned times it's difficult to recommend a route that won't involve humping luggage around, but going via Salford Crescent might work (same platform change).