Ticket vaildity question: On chiltern trains.

[TSR :D]

I want to have a ticket that goes from Birmingham to London, since as far as I know, no mainline train stops on Harrow on Hill train station.

So, is it allowed for me to go from Birmingham to London Marylebone then get on different train back to Harrow on Hill station?

I assume it will be valid as Harrow on Hill is part of mainline and my ticket is valid for all stations on the mainline as someone has told me.

The ticket is super/normal off-peak.

 

[Mojo]

Harrow/Hill is not on the 'main line,' it is on the Aylesbury - Marylebone via Amersham line. To travel via Aylesbury on a Birmingham - London Terminals ticket is not permitted.

If you want to go via Zone 1 then you will need to purchase a Birmingham to Zone U1245 ticket, priced at £33.20 Super Off-peak (via. High Wycombe) or £52.50 Off-peak (Any Permitted).

An alternative option would be to buy a London Terminals ticket (£25.00 / £43.30) and Oyster PAYG for £2.70 Off-peak each way.

 

[bb21]

Harrow/Hill is not on the 'main line,' it is on the Aylesbury - Marylebone via Amersham line. To travel via Aylesbury on a Birmingham - London Terminals ticket is not permitted.

Due to the existence of Easement 30039, travel via Aylesbury is permitted on a Birmingham Stations - London Terminals ticket routed either Any Permitted or High Wycombe.

The OP may stop short at Harrow-on-the-Hill as none of the fares for the above flows has BoJ restriction applied. There is no need to travel into central London.

 

[Paul Kelly]

If you were on a mainline train coming from Birmingham, wouldn't that mean you had to change at Banbury (or possibly Bicester North), Princes Risborough and Aylesbury in order to go that way? No mainline trains stop at Princes Risborough - my interpretation was that the OP *wanted* to be able to go via London as it would be faster.

 

[LexyBoy]

If you were on a mainline train coming from Birmingham, wouldn't that mean you had to change at Banbury (or possibly Bicester North), Princes Risborough and Aylesbury in order to go that way? No mainline trains stop at Princes Risborough - my interpretation was that the OP *wanted* to be able to go via London as it would be faster.

I think the fact that OP stated "mainline" I would interpret as meaning they wish to travel on the fast "Mainline" branded services. So I'd think that travelling into Marylebone and then out again is what was intended.

You could do this on a Birmingham-London return, using the outward portion all the way to London, then the return as far as Harrow on the Hill. On the return journey you'd have to do as Indigo2 describes, since the return ticket is already used as far as Harrow on the Hill.

Alternatively, buy a new ticket (or use Oyster) for Marylebone-HotH, or buy a Birmingham-HotH return ticket (valid via Marylebone).