TS2021 Valley Lines Route

Jacob Didcote

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Hello All,
I am currently adding the "Valley Lines" to the current SWC Bristol- Swansea route. This will hopefully be in 2 Phases. I am stumped whether to set in the ATW or TfW era. The original plan was to wait for the SWC electrification to be done and then i would start the route but then it significantly reduces the scenario potential as after running a 2005 Rhymney Tractor run and roll into an electrified CDF. I was thinking of doing ATW originally as it spanned 15 years. On the other hand, i was thinking of doing TfW as i want to add some modern touches to the route and make it as up-to-date as possible but then i can't as there won't be any OHLE on the SWML. Any ideas or help (reference material) would be appreciated.

PHASE 1 incudes; Vale Of Glamorgan Line, Ebbw Valley Line & Maesteg Line.

PHASE 2 includes; City Line, The Rhondda Line, Aberdare Branch, Merthyr Line, Coryton Line and Rhymney Line.

Updates will be posted on here, my website www.spadsimulations.co.uk, on my Facebook (SPADSimulations) and Instagram (@SPADSimulations)!

Attached are the maps for the 2 phases.
 

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Sounds like an interesting project! I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to Welsh railways and so I can't help with things like reference material etc., but I can offer help for route building tips. Do yu have the gradient information for the route(s)? That'll be one of the most important things for building a route in TS. www.railwaydata.co.uk has gradient profiles, as does https://railmap.azurewebsites.net/Public/Gradients. Have you made any other TS routes before?

-Peter :)
 

Jacob Didcote

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Sounds like an interesting project! I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to Welsh railways and so I can't help with things like reference material etc., but I can offer help for route building tips. Do yu have the gradient information for the route(s)? That'll be one of the most important things for building a route in TS. www.railwaydata.co.uk has gradient profiles, as does https://railmap.azurewebsites.net/Public/Gradients. Have you made any other TS routes before?

-Peter :)
I do have the gradients for the lines and I downloaded and printed the Sectional Appendix for the lines too which include the speed restrictions and platform lengths, etc. In all honesty no, but I have played round with route building in the past, nothing notable but got myself used how it all works. I haven't set a deadline on it so I can just take my time and make it to the best of my ability! Even tips would be most welcome!
 

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I do have the gradients for the lines and I downloaded and printed the Sectional Appendix for the lines too which include the speed restrictions and platform lengths, etc. In all honesty no, but I have played round with route building in the past, nothing notable but got myself used how it all works. I haven't set a deadline on it so I can just take my time and make it to the best of my ability! Even tips would be most welcome!
Ah brilliant - sounds good. I'm currently working on a couple of projects myself which also don't have any deadlines (mainly because I'm doing it more for my own use than for release) and it's definitely made it more fun. I hadn't actually thought about using the Sectional Appendices as a resource, so I'll have a look and see how I could use it.

I hope it all goes well!

-Peter
 

Jacob Didcote

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Ah brilliant - sounds good. I'm currently working on a couple of projects myself which also don't have any deadlines (mainly because I'm doing it more for my own use than for release) and it's definitely made it more fun. I hadn't actually thought about using the Sectional Appendices as a resource, so I'll have a look and see how I could use it.

I hope it all goes well!

-Peter
As well as laying the track at the moment i am making custom assets which is proving to be a pain! https://www.networkrail.co.uk/indus...ators/national-electronic-sectional-appendix/ then scroll down and it'll contain all the lines in the UK!

Hope it helps!
 

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As well as laying the track at the moment i am making custom assets which is proving to be a pain! https://www.networkrail.co.uk/indus...ators/national-electronic-sectional-appendix/ then scroll down and it'll contain all the lines in the UK!

Hope it helps!
I need to learn how to make my own custom assets for my route, now I think about it. It would be a lot of work! I think I've got some of the Sectional Appendices downloaded but I'm not sure; thanks for providing the link.

-Peter
 

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I need to learn how to make my own custom assets for my route, now I think about it. It would be a lot of work! I think I've got some of the Sectional Appendices downloaded but I'm not sure; thanks for providing the link.

-Peter
Peter,
No problem! It's fine to create them it's just the Baking, Texturing and Exporting that is the pain!
The sectional appendices have been quite helpful so far!
-Jake
 

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If you are looking for reference material and advice, the Railways in South Wales Facebook group is full of pictures and knowledgeable enthusiasts who are happy to answer questions.
 

Jacob Didcote

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If you are looking for reference material and advice, the Railways in South Wales Facebook group is full of pictures and knowledgeable enthusiasts who are happy to answer questions.
The members post so many useful things. Their Signal Sunday is always helpful for positioning and types of signals. It is a really useful page!

Made it to Penarth!

Jobs to do:
Markers- Stations (Dingle Road & Penarth)
Scenery- Lots to do!!! Will leave it until all of the track is laid. (DEM import has messed up and now there are cliffs down to the stations .

Next job is to lay track down the Vale Of Glamorgan then I'll make a start on the scenery. Before then commencing work on the Ebbw Valley and Maesteg Line!
 

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