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So was in that lovely place of Croydon today and got train back from West, noticed that they have platforms 1,3,4 so what happened to 2?

Was it filled in at one time for the LO to move in? Though with them only having 4 car trains it seems illogical to do so as why would you extend a platform for a train that isnt going to fill it(not even with 5)

Also what goes to/from 1? Saw a Southern service pull in there but couldnt see on the departure screen whether it was going anywhere after that.

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So was in that lovely place of Croydon today and got train back from West, noticed that they have platforms 1,3,4 so what happened to 2?

Was it filled in at one time for the LO to move in? Though with them only having 4 car trains it seems illogical to do so as why would you extend a platform for a train that isnt going to fill it(not even with 5)

Also what goes to/from 1? Saw a Southern service pull in there but couldnt see on the departure screen whether it was going anywhere after that.

thanks

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P2 is still there, and even has a number plate hanging from the canopy, although it's not officially used. P1 is used for all southern terminating services from Victoria and London bridge, also used by FCC once a day as a turn back move with ECS from cricklewood to selhurst.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1537865 with a good description of what happened, you can see where p2/3 started and stopped by the canopy.
 
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Platform 2 was a down bay, last used by the Wimbledon - West Croydon shuttle service before the trams took over that route.

Platform 3 was lengthened in the down direction into the site of Platform 2 a few years ago, under one of the various train lengthening projects for Southern's benefit - and as you know it is also used for the LO services that don't actually need the full length.

Platform 1 is generally used for the Southern service to London Bridge via Streatham.
 

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Smashing cheers folks always nice to find stuff out.
 

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You can clearly see a line in Platform 3 where it used to cut short, that is where the buffer stops were for Platform 2. I have to say I went to WC loads of times when I was younger but never remember Platform 2 as it was. I believe it used to just be a 2 car service that served the shuttle to Wimbledon?

Usually Platform 1 is used for London Bridge services via Streatham as mentioned although some of the late night services that terminate and go in to the turnback siding I have wondered why they don't stick you in there instead. I have run a train a couple of times from P1 to Victoria usually via Crystal Palace.
 

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Usually Platform 1 is used for London Bridge services via Streatham as mentioned although some of the late night services that terminate and go in to the turnback siding I have wondered why they don't stick you in there instead.

Could it be just to keep drivers familiar with it in case they need to use the turn back when there are problems?
 

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You can clearly see a line in Platform 3 where it used to cut short, that is where the buffer stops were for Platform 2. I have to say I went to WC loads of times when I was younger but never remember Platform 2 as it was. I believe it used to just be a 2 car service that served the shuttle to Wimbledon?

Usually Platform 1 is used for London Bridge services via Streatham as mentioned although some of the late night services that terminate and go in to the turnback siding I have wondered why they don't stick you in there instead. I have run a train a couple of times from P1 to Victoria usually via Crystal Palace.

Just found a pic of a 456 in Platform 2. There are some pics of a 456 at Waddon Marsh somewhere in that photostream.

As for the turnback sidings, are you talking about the ones LO services usually use, just beyond the station (towards Waddon)?
 

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You can clearly see a line in Platform 3 where it used to cut short, that is where the buffer stops were for Platform 2. I have to say I went to WC loads of times when I was younger but never remember Platform 2 as it was. I believe it used to just be a 2 car service that served the shuttle to Wimbledon?

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I used the old platform 2 many times on the Wimbledon services which was always 2 cars only.
The platform could hold a maximum of 4 coaches but the full length of the platform was very rarely used. I started using the Wimbledon line when it was formed of a 2EPB and finished with a 2 car 456. All stock/crews were from Selhurst Depot.
 

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Platform 2 was always the termination point of our regular shopping runs from Merton Park to Croydon as kids, in fact I think it's probably the only platform I've ever used there.

I have very fond memories of that libe for some reason, Tramlink just isn't the same.
 

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Platform 2 was a down bay, last used by the Wimbledon - West Croydon shuttle service before the trams took over that route.

Platform 3 was lengthened in the down direction into the site of Platform 2 a few years ago, under one of the various train lengthening projects for Southern's benefit - and as you know it is also used for the LO services that don't actually need the full length.

Platform 1 is generally used for the Southern service to London Bridge via Streatham.


Platform 3 was lengthened by the East London line project team to allow for the removal of substandard phantom reduced overlap and SPAD klaxon at the London end of the station. This would allow for the route to be set from out of the turn back siding without the overlap extending over the point work to and from the bay platform (1) at West Croydon station. Which if had remained unaltered would not allow a train into and out of platform 1 at the same time a train was signalled out of the turn back siding into platform 3. The by product of this was the project took the chance to lengthen platform 3 to take Southern's 10 car trains while they were altering the platform and signalling.
 

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Famous for the opening credits of Terry and June lol

That was East Croydon !
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I used the old platform 2 many times on the Wimbledon services which was always 2 cars only.
The platform could hold a maximum of 4 coaches but the full length of the platform was very rarely used. I started using the Wimbledon line when it was formed of a 2EPB and finished with a 2 car 456. All stock/crews were from Selhurst Depot.

In times gone past 60s or earlier there were four car trains in the peaks, the service ran every 30 minutes, every 20 minutes in the peaks.

By the 70s it was down to every 30 mins mon to sat no evening service and by the late 80s it was down to one every 45 minutes so only one train was needed.

I recall the last time that a four car train used the platform was during the signalmens (I think) strike in the early 90s. Most of West Croydon was and is under Three Bridges signalling centre where the strike was solid.

However the Wimbledon bay, like the rest of the line came under Victoria Signalling centre. So they ran a Victoria to West Croydon via Mitcham Junction service using four car units for a day. Dont know what the intermediate calls were but I suspect all stations to Mitcham Junction then fast to west croydon to miminise time on the single line. The loop at Waddon Marsh was taken out some years previously when the footbridge was condemned to save the cost of a new footbridge.

Quite staggering that urban branch line backwater which actually had closure notices up in the early 70s now has 8 trams an hour with more planned.
 
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