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What happens to disused tube tunnels after the track is lifted (lesser known examples?)

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There are several examples of disused tunnels on the Underground where the track is still in place and trains can still run through, such as Green Park - Charing Cross and Holborn - Aldwych. There are also many more abandoned tunnels where the track has been lifted, such as the old C&SLR between King William Street and Borough. While this is a well-known example within the enthusiast community, I’d be interested to know what has happened to lesser-known examples, such as:
  • Northern City Line Drayton Park - Finsbury Park (platforms 3 and 4)
  • Piccadilly Line Finsbury Park (platform 2) - Arsenal
  • Pre-Victoria Line alignment of Northern Line (Bank Branch) through Euston
  • Pre-1992 alignment of Northern Line through Angel
  • Pre-2022 alignment of Northern Line through Bank
  • Numerous more reversing sidings and crossovers shown as abandoned on the Carto Metro map
Are these tunnels filled in? Have they been left in situ with no access? Have they been converted to other uses (utilities, maintenance etc).
 
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There are several examples of disused tunnels on the Underground where the track is still in place and trains can still run through, such as Green Park - Charing Cross and Holborn - Aldwych. There are also many more abandoned tunnels where the track has been lifted, such as the old C&SLR between King William Street and Borough. While this is a well-known example within the enthusiast community, I’d be interested to know what has happened to lesser-known examples, such as:
  • Northern City Line Drayton Park - Finsbury Park (platforms 3 and 4)
  • Piccadilly Line Finsbury Park (platform 2) - Arsenal
  • Pre-Victoria Line alignment of Northern Line (Bank Branch) through Euston
  • Pre-1992 alignment of Northern Line through Angel
  • Pre-2022 alignment of Northern Line through Bank
  • Numerous more reversing sidings and crossovers shown as abandoned on the Carto Metro map
Are these tunnels filled in? Have they been left in situ with no access? Have they been converted to other uses (utilities, maintenance etc).
Many of these are covered in the "Hidden London Hangouts" videos on YouTube.
 

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Some of them have featured on Secrets of the Underground, haven't they? @timmydunn could probably provide links to the specific individual episodes.
 

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There are several examples of disused tunnels on the Underground where the track is still in place and trains can still run through, such as Green Park - Charing Cross and Holborn - Aldwych. There are also many more abandoned tunnels where the track has been lifted, such as the old C&SLR between King William Street and Borough. While this is a well-known example within the enthusiast community, I’d be interested to know what has happened to lesser-known examples, such as:
  • Northern City Line Drayton Park - Finsbury Park (platforms 3 and 4)
  • Piccadilly Line Finsbury Park (platform 2) - Arsenal
  • Pre-Victoria Line alignment of Northern Line (Bank Branch) through Euston
  • Pre-1992 alignment of Northern Line through Angel
  • Pre-2022 alignment of Northern Line through Bank
  • Numerous more reversing sidings and crossovers shown as abandoned on the Carto Metro map
Are these tunnels filled in? Have they been left in situ with no access? Have they been converted to other uses (utilities, maintenance etc).
Another one to add: The turnaround loop at Embankment when it was the southern terminus of the CCE&HR (now the Northern Line Charing Cross branch).
 

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Another one to add: The turnaround loop at Embankment when it was the southern terminus of the CCE&HR (now the Northern Line Charing Cross branch).

No track in that one. The first hundred yards or so of tunnel is intact, an empty tunnel with the part nearest the current southbound tunnel being used as a p-way store.

After this hundred yards there is a brick wall. My understanding is that beyond this brick wall is a short section where a shaft once led up to the District Line, beyond which is another brick wall, and the remaining section of loop lies beyond that. I have no idea what the situation is with the shaft, certainly the shaft and remaining section of tunnel aren’t regarded as accessible. The tunnel is backfilled where the current southbound Northern Line cuts through it. It has been rumoured that the inaccessible section of tunnel is flooded, this was of course the section damaged in the war.

It’s quite surprising really that this tunnel still exists but is completely inaccessible for any form of inspection. No doubt some day in the future this will become an issue in some way.

There are several examples of disused tunnels on the Underground where the track is still in place and trains can still run through, such as Green Park - Charing Cross and Holborn - Aldwych. There are also many more abandoned tunnels where the track has been lifted, such as the old C&SLR between King William Street and Borough. While this is a well-known example within the enthusiast community, I’d be interested to know what has happened to lesser-known examples, such as:
  • Northern City Line Drayton Park - Finsbury Park (platforms 3 and 4)
  • Piccadilly Line Finsbury Park (platform 2) - Arsenal
  • Pre-Victoria Line alignment of Northern Line (Bank Branch) through Euston
  • Pre-1992 alignment of Northern Line through Angel
  • Pre-2022 alignment of Northern Line through Bank
  • Numerous more reversing sidings and crossovers shown as abandoned on the Carto Metro map
Are these tunnels filled in? Have they been left in situ with no access? Have they been converted to other uses (utilities, maintenance etc).

Off the top of my head I can think of

Bakerloo Line
Original Elephant & Castle sidings, shorter and on a different alignment to today’s sidings. These were largely consumed by the present siding access tunnels, and the remaining short lengths appear to have been backfilled

Central Line
Queensway and British Museum sidings - tunnels survive, may well still contain track

Victoria Line
Nothing

Jubilee Line
Charing Cross is still part of the operational railway

Northern Line
Euston (later) siding - empty tunnel IIRC track lifted
Euston (original) siding - tunnel survives filled with rubble
Angel siding - tunnel survives but cut in two by 1990s diversion tunnel, empty tunnel track lifted
Angel original NB - both sections survive, the northernmost section still has running rails, can’t remember the southern section
Old Street siding - tunnel survives no
track
Bank original SB - don’t know!
London Bridge original SB - southern section of running tunnel survives complete with track, northern section is largely backfilled
London Bridge siding - now largely used as equipment rooms
King William Street tunnels - survives as empty tunnels, some parts around London Bridge used for ventilation, a short section breached by station works. Under river tunnels sealed by bulkheads, inspection doors at King William Street end only
Elephant & Castle siding - backfilled
Stockwell sidings - most survives as empty tunnel, including lower section of original depot access incline tunnel
Clapham Common siding - empty tunnel survives as pway store
Embankment Loop - first hundred yards accessible as pway store, rest sealed off and backfilled in parts
Drayton Park to Finsbury Park - mostly still survives, though parts backfilled for Victoria Line work and at the Drayton Park tunnel mouths end. Mostly still contains track.
Highbury & Islington diversions - no idea but presumably short sections survive

Piccadilly Line
Finsbury Park - short sections of empty tunnel, no idea of their status

W&C
Lift siding access tunnel, presumably empty tunnel but may still contain track?

To that we can also add the St Mary’s Curve which certainly still exists, may even still have track. And the original Aldgate curve, which is now mainly equipment rooms.
 
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One of the videos Geoff Marshall did about the recent Bank upgrade shows much of the former southbound tunnel at the north end of the station is now an equipment room, but beyond where it’s been filled in and a floor level installed the rails have still been left in situ. I had a quick scan through the video but didn’t see any coverage of the interior of the south end of the original tunnel, but it was not visible at the point where the new tunnel connects to the old alignment.
 

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Original Elephant & Castle sidings, shorter and on a different alignment to today’s sidings. These were largely consumed by the present siding access tunnels, and the remaining short lengths appear to have been backfilled
I was wondering why there’s a stub shown on the Carto Metro map veering off to the east after E&C. I had assumed this might be for the Bakerloo Line extension to Lewisham.

When were the current sidings built? I know the original plan was to extend the Bakerloo to Camberwell which those sidings are correctly orientated for, but more recent proposals are to extend to Lewisham via Old Kent Road, which the original sidings faced. Wonder if they will be rebored on the same alignment?
 

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Not the tube, but on sub surface lines, was originally 2 pairs of tracks between Gloucester Road and South Kensington, now just mix of 2 and 3 track rather than 4 tracks. The sidings at South Kensington went about 1960 when the island platform was widened and the escalators added

There was the Liverpool Street spur, the tunnel mouth used to be more obvious as approach from Moorgate. It led directly to what is platforms 1&2 in main train shed. In late 1980s part of this route was demolished, but another part was dug out (which is why the brick platform edges of platforms 1&2 extend to nearer the buffers that platform 3&4). A new Central line ticket hall was built under the old track bed in early 1990s (it is under about first 50m of platform 1-5)

Was also a subsurface spur from Barbican under the Central London markets to what is now City Thameslink, think this was blocked and used for cables and worksite access during Elizabeth line construction.

There are trackless freight loop track bed outside the running rails between Barons Court and West Kensington too, and some aborted bits of the proposed District Express line near West Kensington.

Apparently when first opened Mansion House station had 7 platforms, presumably most got built on as now only 3 platforms
 

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The Metropolitan Railway engine shed and works South of Edgware Road now occupied by Griffin House and a new substation. Also missed, and very easy to miss was a tiny engine shed in a cubby hole just north of Paddington (Praed Street) on the Dist/Circle on the inside now occupied by a substation. Branch to the former lift at Waterloo stopped up and partially back-filled. Step-plate junctions at South Ken never used. Also some mainline ones like the tunnels around Kings Cross and a bit left-field: The Up Carriage Line between Camden and Euston which seems to still have its track in place but OLE removed. This would have been back-filled if the original planned HS1-HS2 link had gone ahead. I think the City and South London Traverser just to the west of Euston (City Branch) has been totally filled.
 

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There was the Liverpool Street spur, the tunnel mouth used to be more obvious as approach from Moorgate. It led directly to what is platforms 1&2 in main train shed. In late 1980s part of this route was demolished, but another part was dug out (which is why the brick platform edges of platforms 1&2 extend to nearer the buffers that platform 3&4). A new Central line ticket hall was built under the old track bed in early 1990s (it is under about first 50m of platform 1-5)

Did that (or part of it) end up becoming something like a railway staff social club / hall or similar?

I have a vague memory of going to an event (probably a model railway exhibition) in some sort of venue in a disused tunnel at Liverpool Street - this would have been with my (late) father 40 or more years ago. Of course at this distance in time, it's possible I've remembered wrong, or that I may have been told something that wasn't quite right.
 

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That is my recollection too. I remember looking over the parapet in Broad Street Avenue around 40 years ago and seeing the end of a building that looked as if it was being squeezed out of the tunnel like toothpaste.
 

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I wonder if there would be a possibility of using these sections of tunnels to have heat pumps powering a district heating network? If I remember correctly there's precedent for this at abandoned stations, with City Road now home to the Bunhill plant. But I guess maybe a confined tunnel deep underground isn't a big enough space to house all of the equipment? It feels like it would be a good way to simultaneously cool the tunnels and warm people's houses and businesses.
 

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I wonder if there would be a possibility of using these sections of tunnels to have heat pumps powering a district heating network? If I remember correctly there's precedent for this at abandoned stations, with City Road now home to the Bunhill plant. But I guess maybe a confined tunnel deep underground isn't a big enough space to house all of the equipment? It feels like it would be a good way to simultaneously cool the tunnels and warm people's houses and businesses.

The less said about the City Road scheme the better. For some reason the disused station hasn’t been secure since, and parts of it have been trashed by vandals / vagrants on a number of occasions. This problem never seemed to arise hitherto.
 

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I've often wondered about the Hounslow West realignment.

There isn’t much left of that, as the space used by the former station was pretty much entirely turned into the station car park - which AIUI is now down to have a massive development of flats as a result of current mayoral policies.
 

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Between Holborn and Aldwych on the Piccadilly Line there were originally two tunnels, with two platforms at Aldwych and two Aldwych Branch platforms at Holborn. One tunnel (the eastern one I think) went out of use quite early, and was used during World War 2 to store materials from the British Museum. There was a crossover between the two tunnels just south of Holborn. There is track in the long-disused platform at Aldwych and I think in most of the tunnel form there to Holborn.

The second tunnel at Holborn was a dead end and was tucked in between the Aldwych branch and the eastbound running tunnel of the Piccadilly Line as it approached Holborn platform 4. It was used variously for military purposes and by Kings College (if my recollection is accurate) after trains ceased to run into it. It was divided vertically into two floors to create more usable space.

At the westbound end of platform 4 you can see a blocked access to a passageway that led to this old platform. In about 1952 there was occasionally a light in the chamber behind the door and you could read a notice which said "The canteen is now closed". There was also a small access from this area into the eastbound running tunnel just before it reach Holborn platform 4. I remember a light shining through it for a few weeks in 1952.

There was formerly a passageway from the western of platform 3 (westbound) connecting to the eastbound platform 4 and the Aldwych platform 5. Partway along it a set of stairs, gated off, led up to the dead end platform.

The disused platform at Aldwych was used to try out new designs for tube station platforms. More recently, but no longer I believe, it housed a 4-car 1971 mark 1 unit which was used for filming purposes. I'll post a picture that when I can locate it.
 
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