What rail projects are at risk of being cancelled due to Covid19?

[deltic]

I understand that Crossrail 2 has been put on hold for the forseeable future. While shovel ready schemes such as HS2 are progressing, what other rail projects are at risk of either being heavily delayed or dropped completely?

 

[yorkie]

Can I ask that, to avoid duplication, we don't discuss HS2 in this thread please.

If anyone wishes to discuss HS2, please read the existing thread and add to that thread if you wish to make a point that hasn't already been raised before.

Thanks

 

[PTR 444]

I understand that Crossrail 2 has been put on hold for the forseeable future. While shovel ready schemes such as HS2 are progressing, what other rail projects are at risk of either being heavily delayed or dropped completely?

Heathrow Western Access?

If demand for air travel drops as much as people forecast, any rail link built to serve it would probably be considered a white elephant. Mind you, traffic will likely be back to pre-covid levels by the time any new infrastructure project is completed, knowing how long it takes us Brits to get projects off the ground.

 

[deltic]

Heathrow Western Access?

If demand for air travel drops as much as people forecast, any rail link built to serve it would probably be considered a white elephant. Mind you, traffic will likely be back to pre-covid levels by the time any new infrastructure project is completed, knowing how long it takes us Brits to get projects off the ground.

Agree if the third runway gets kicked into the long grass then it and southern access scheme will probably go

 

[bramling]

I understand that Crossrail 2 has been put on hold for the forseeable future. While shovel ready schemes such as HS2 are progressing, what other rail projects are at risk of either being heavily delayed or dropped completely?

Watch out for some London Underground schemes. Piccadilly Line resignalling I suspect is dead for the foreseeable future (it was already 90% dead anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin). I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s further delay to the fleet replacements on the Piccadilly, Bakerloo and Central Lines - bets open as to how old the 72 stock will be when it finally goes! Also some station schemes could be in doubt - Holborn is one to watch.

 

[HH]

Agree if the third runway gets kicked into the long grass then it and southern access scheme will probably go

I know someone who was working on this and they seem convinced that the third runway is a dead duck.

 

[infobleep]

The reason for some of these projects is to enable more trains to run

If people start going back to work we could probably do with the extra trains to allow people to stay socially distanced whilst travelling.

Alas by the time such projects would be completed, the virus may have died out.

 

[deltic]

I would hope that electrification projects would go ahead given the recent DfT decarbonisation paper but anything that is for capacity reasons is likely to go on hold. All of TfL projects that havent started will be kicked into the long grass.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I would hope that electrification projects would go ahead given the recent DfT decarbonisation paper but anything that is for capacity reasons is likely to go on hold. All of TfL projects that havent started will be kicked into the long grass.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[popeter45]

I know someone who was working on this and they seem convinced that the third runway is a dead duck.

with so many airlines going under or downsizing heathrow slots are highly likely to be one of the first things to be sold considering what they can make from selling them so i predict the slot utilisation will drop heavily, kills off argument for third runway for a very long time if not forever if flight shaming prevents growth of the flight sector post covid

 

[HH]

with so many airlines going under or downsizing heathrow slots are highly likely to be one of the first things to be sold considering what they can make from selling them so i predict the slot utilisation will drop heavily, kills off argument for third runway for a very long time if not forever if flight shaming prevents growth of the flight sector post covid

Yes, it's clear that most airlines are expecting a long term downturn in air travel, so increasing capacity has no logic.