What Traction to Expect...

[transportphoto]

Hi - I am asking for my ALR in October so there are quite a few, answers ASAP please as I am booking on Tuesday and may not be able to access the internet after tomorrow morning, SORRY! :mad::mad:
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Services colored RED are those which traction details are required.
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Monday to Friday

Norwich to Peterborough 0652 - EMT CL158
Peterborough to Edinburgh Waverley 0846 EC Mallard
Edinburgh Waverly to Aberdeen 1334
Aberdeen to Inverness 1718
London Paddington to Newport S.W 0915GW HST
Newport S.W. to Bristol PW 1139
Bristol PW to Manchester Pic. 1210
Manchester Pic. to London Euston 1515 VT Cl390
London St P Int to Sheffield 1755
Sheffield to Manchester Picadilly 0805
Manchester Pic. to Glasgow Central 0916 TPE Cl185
Glasgow Central to Paisley Gilmour St 1245 SR Cl380
Paisley Gimour St to Glasgow Central 1311 SR Cl380
Glasgow Central to Birmingham New St 1411 VT Cl221
Birmingham New Street to Tame Bridge PW 0839
Tame Bridge PW to London M 0902
London St P Int to Ashford International 1242 SE Cl395
Ashford International to London St P International 1343 SE Cl395

More to Come**

*Some services don't accommodate seat reservations - I know either way, however I would like to get the first couple of days reserved and that will leave the other days to do & any which I would like to know traction to get the best view!

**See above - next couple of days to follow when I finish planning!"


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TIA
TP

 

[djw1981]

1330 FSR Edin-Aberdeen will be 170 or 158. 1340 is EC HST
Aberdeen- Inverness is mostlikely to be a 158 but a 170 may be used on occasion.
Glasgow- Paisley return most likely 334 or 318.

 

[ainsworth74]

Edinburgh Waverly to Aberdeen 1334

FSR 158/170 EC HST or XC 220/221

London St P Int to Sheffield 1755

EMT 222

Sheffield to Manchester Picadilly 0805

TPE 185

 

[Dave R]

Bristol PW to Manchester Pic. 1210 - XC Voyager
London St P Int to Sheffield 1755 - EM Meridian
Birmingham New Street to Tame Bridge PW 0839 - LM 170 or 170+153
Tame Bridge PW to London M 0902 - WS 67

 

[djw1981]

There are lots of relatively early finishes and late starts. Is that deliberate? You could get a good many local lines in if you tried. Assume Inverness-Paddington is a Caledonian Sleeper plus tube journey?

 

[MCR247]

I don't think that's his full itinerary, just the bits he's unsure about

 

[transportphoto]

Thanks for the Help so far.

No - thats not my full itinerary, it's just what I want to know the traction.

The nearly finished itinerary will appear in my ALR thread on Weds after I have been told of any Engineering Works when doing some of my seat res's on Tues.

The main reason I ask for the traction is so I can choose a Seat Preference from my seating plans gratefully received from 'rail-britain' via his website.

 

[route101]

Not sure if the class 380s will be in service in Oct who knows? You could throw a 314 to Paisley Gilmour st if its a Wemyss bay or Gourock train .

 

[87019Chris]

Newport S.W. to Bristol PW 1139 This is usally a ATW Cl 158 but it coulld be (less likely) a Cl 150 again a ATW trains service. however it is a while since i have taken this train.
Also the Bristol PW to Manchester Pic. 1210 should be a XC Cl 221
the London St P Int to Sheffield 1755 shouuuuld definitly be a Cl 222 or a Cl 43
Birmingham New Street to Tame Bridge PW 0839 should be a Cl 323 or a Cl 170+153

I hope this isnt too late as i dont usally check the forum for a while then i try too help sorry if this is too late

 

[krus_aragon]

Newport S.W. to Bristol PW 1139 This is usally a ATW Cl 158 but it coulld be (less likely) a Cl 150 again a ATW trains service. however it is a while since i have taken this train.

Are you sure this is an ATW service? I can't think of any Arriva trains that run to Bristol Parkway...

 

[transportphoto]

Nothing is too late - the booking office clerk (at [stn]LST[/stn] couldn't for some reason issue the ALR's saying that the dates are not available, don't know how true this is!

 

[Techniquest]

Are you sure this is an ATW service? I can't think of any Arriva trains that run to Bristol Parkway...

No ATW services run into Bristol Parkway.

The only service booked to arrive from South Wales around 1139 would be booked into Bristol Parkway at 1130, the 1055 Cardiff Central to London Paddington (1109 from Newport).

Which allows you to then get the 1140 from Bristol Parkway rather than waiting 40 minutes for the 1200 Bristol Temple Meads to Manchester Piccadilly (1210 from Bristol Parkway). I wouldn't swear to it being either 220 or 221, both classes work the Bristol to Manchester services and indeed any other XC work.

I reckon you'll be lucky to get a 380 on the Paiseley moves, but if your ALR isn't until the autumn then you might be in luck. Although I'd be hoping for a 314 or other ScR EMU before it's all change up there.

 

[MCR247]

It might be a 380 as they are due to enter service in September on Ayrshire and inverclyde duties

 

[Techniquest]

This is true. Hadn't really noticed when the OP said his ALR was starting when I first read the post, I was more interested in seeing if everything had been covered. Which is when I read the thing about ATW at Bristol Parkway, so felt compelled to reply.

 

[scotsman]

1340 is EC HST

There is no such train.

 

[Techniquest]

There is, however, a 1452 Aberdeen to Kings Cross, which is formed of the 1322 (ish) arrival from Leeds.

 

[87019Chris]

Are you sure this is an ATW service? I can't think of any Arriva trains that run to Bristol Parkway...

sorry i misread the train i thought it said bristol TM i only took a glace i doo apologize for my mistake