EWR/Chiltern Class 196 Build and Implementation

[Wyrleybart]

Moderator note - split from:

WMR Class 196 Build and Implementation

Time to start a thread about these things, so lets start with the most important bit of passenger comfort information. The Seats! WM have put out a release re the seats, check out the link below...

www.railforums.co.uk

Aa a matter of interest, what is the situation with the 196s with regard to equipment for operating DCO / DOO ?

I seem to recall reports at the start of their delivery, saying that the 196s and 730s were built with the door panel controls plated over, having to be reinstated due to WMR not using the DCO method.

I wonder if 196007-012 are now being "remodified", to be made DCO capable for use by Chiltern crews on EWR?

 

[tfw756rider]

The 196s are yeah.

I know this is the WMR 196 thread, but isn't it only the 20 West Midlands Railway 196s that have been in service, with none of the 6 Chiltern / East West Rail 196s yet in service?

 

[JonathanH]

none of the 6 Chiltern / East West Rail 196s yet in service?

Those six all operated for WMR before being withdrawn for transfer.

 

[Pete_uk]

At least that should hopefully mean they have bedded in somewhat and should hit the ground running.

 

[Wyrleybart]

At least that should hopefully mean they have bedded in somewhat and should hit the ground running.

True, but are they having to be retro modified for DCO / DOO door controls if EWR is or isn't going to be DCO operated ?

 

[HLE]

No, it's all there as built, however the DOO screens were covered over and the system isolated. It's TBC what form of dispatch EWR will use.

 

[DavidGrain]

The 6 Class 196s also will be re-liveried according to Chiltern's announcement. I have seen reports that they are still in WMR livery a few days ago. This will be another delay in opening the Oxford - MKC route.
There has been no public mention of this but I am wondering if the question of DOO is causing another delay in bringing these back into public service. Bear in mind Chiltern operates DOO south of Banbury for all their trains except for the loco hauled.

 

[D365]

True, but are they having to be retro modified for DCO / DOO door controls if EWR is or isn't going to be DCO operated ?

Even if EWR doesn’t require GOPs (guard operation panels), the intention is that the 196/0s will return to WMR once EWR procures its own fleet of bi-mode trains. Given that the materials & installation cost is a low proportion of the overall GOP modification workstream, it would be a bit bonkers to not fit the entire 196 fleet.

 

[Wyrleybart]

Even if EWR doesn’t require GOPs (guard operation panels), the intention is that the 196/0s will return to WMR once EWR procures its own fleet of bi-mode trains. Given that the materials & installation cost is a low proportion of the overall GOP modification workstream, it would be a bit bonkers to not fit the entire 196 fleet.

I don't doubt that, but is there an official statement to that effect published anywhere ?