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In standard colours I assume?
Yep. Identical to this one but with the words High Peak instead of Centrebus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwbphotos/6795100139/
Saw some buses labelled TP2 TP3 TP4 (what's that all about?) including the famous 'Unibus' on Sunday, then saw the Unibus doing a schools' service, I think, in Tideswell this afternoon.
So to travel the full route would you need to change there times?
That's the Transpeak service - it's been registered in several sections. Loevly and confusing
So to travel the full route would you need to change there times?
There shouldn't be any need to change - Stagecoach have done this on a large number of their longer distance services - its to comply with driving hours - to keep staff on the domestic/bus regulations rather than the European/coach regulations (which would require longer breaks between duties)
It's a trick also employed by Arriva Cymru on their 5 & 5x services from Llandudno-Caernarfon too and, I suspect, by other operators in other places.
It seems a blatant way of getting round the EU regulation, but the Commissioners seem happy with it! So why accept the original regulation?
Anybody seen any buses with new livery, or any news of new stock? I only saw two Unibuses today on the TP - had thought there was only one!
I do hope that High Peak eventually provide a reasonable quality of vehicles for those services that run the full length route from Manchester to Derby/Nottingham. It will be good for both the travelling passengers and for the company image in both Manchester and Stockport on the TransPeak route.
Solos have turned up on the 199, at a time when it picks up loads of Stockport Grammar and Hazel Grove High schoolkids.
Can someone inform me if there has to be a requirement for a certain standard of bus which has to run journey lengths of the same length as that of Nottingham to Manchester ?
Transpeak and Skyline are to remain in ther branded liveries with replacement Transpeak vehicles acquiring Transpeak livery, probably green.
Perhaps my idea of a livery is somewhat conservative but my own views expressed in terms of "supermarket" comparisons would be:-
Existing "Skyline" 199 livery.......Marks & Spencer
New "High Peak" livery..............Netto
Can someone inform me if there has to be a requirement for a certain standard of bus which has to run journey lengths of the same length as that of Nottingham to Manchester ?
One problem with Bowers was they seemed to have too many Solos meaning it was frequent for a Solo to stand-in for a higher capacity bus when one was out of service. It sounds like that is continuing under High Peak.
They are promising newer Scanias for Transpeak but as it is registered as a local service they will have to be low floor and not coaches so probably "Omnilinks" or "Wright Solars"
Paul. I'm afraid Netto have been taken over by Asda. Has the Macclesfield one closed? And their shopping bags were yellow and black, so that's more like Bournemouth or Wilfreda-Beehive school buses.
How can Nottingham/Derby to Manchester ever be classified as "a local service", as this part of the route would have to be shown in the submission documentation. Surely that anomoly would have been seen and queried by the relevant body concerned.
It is the distance between stops which determines if a service is local, not the length of a route.
I was under the impression that the Transpeak did have stretches of a goodly distance between certain area stops...the stopping sequence from Manchester to Stockport alone being a prime example of this. Can you comment on the stopping sequence from Stockport onwards to give similar examples as that stretch that I have just quoted. I appreciate from Buxton to Matlock may well be served by more of a local stopping pattern.
In fact, it would be nice to get some unity of colours (however garish) and some nice vehicles on the TP, which really should be their flagship route.
How can Nottingham/Derby to Manchester ever be classified as "a local service", as this part of the route would have to be shown in the submission documentation. Surely that anomoly would have been seen and queried by the relevant body concerned.
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Thank you for your "Supermarket" clarification...these were just two names plucked out of the ether to show "classical" and "cheap and cheery" establishments as somewhat of a correlation.....not as an actual livery colour scheme comparison. (I was originally going to use Waitrose instead of Marks and Spencer).
I am still not enamoured of the chosen High Peak two-colour scheme, but everyone knows how conservatively I view poor artistic colour schemes. I still would have preferred the single colour dark-red colour scheme for the entire High Peak group that is carried by the 199 Skylink service, which I still regard as "classical".
Generally there need to be gaps of over 15 miles between stops for it not to be a local service. I don't think anywhere on Transpeak comes close to that whereas National Express's 350 Nottingham - Manchester (and beyond) service does.
See http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Local PSV Service Registrations Nov 08 (PSV 353A).pdf (page 2)
Transpeak has been split into 4 seperate interconnecting routes TP1 - 4 advertised as connecting but with no need to change buses as the bus continues all the way, which apparently makes it ok to be a local service
Some parts of TP serve all stops eg Matlock to Buxton