WTT, VAR, STP on Real Time Trains

[Gathursty]

I'm having a fiddle on RTT to find strictly regular passenger services between pairs of extremely close stations and I've eliminated freight easily enough but I am a bit thrown by WTT, VAR and STP options on the website.

Can you explain the options a bit more clearly and tell me what I need to select to see, for example, a normal Monday between Manc Oxford Road and Piccadilly all day?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...4/0000-2359?stp=WVSC&show=pax-calls&order=wtt

 

[The Planner]

Just select WTT, anything else is a change to the base timetable.

 

[IanXC]

My understanding is that:

WTT Working Time Table - the long term plan showing the standard base timetable.

VAR VAried timetable - a WTT schedule that has been planned in advance to be marginally amended/terminated/started short.

STP Short Term Plan - a schedule which has been created on the day in response to a particular need, or a schedule which has been amended in advance by more than can be considered a VAR.

 

[306024]

VAR will be a variation to an existing schedule using the same UID. Could be something as trivial as a different platform somewhere in the schedule.
STP will be a new schedule requiring a new UID to be allocated. Sometimes the difference between VAR and STP is simply the way the train planner went about the task required.
The UID numbers are shown in RTT schedules, but mean nothing in railway operating terms outside train planning, they are simply to enable schedules to be published.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Taking an example from another thread, SWTs extra stops at Wimbledon during the tennis tournament, would they be VARs or STPs?

 

[306024]

99.9% sure they would be VAR. No logical reason to cancel off the booked schedule and replace it completely with a new one just for an additional call.

 

[GB]

My understanding is that:



STP Short Term Plan - a schedule which has been created on the day in response to a particular need, or a schedule which has been amended in advance by more than can be considered a VAR.

Thats more for VSTP- Very Short Term Planning. Short Term Planning is usually a few days to few weeks.

 

[GW43125]

Thats more for VSTP- Very Short Term Planning. Short Term Planning is usually a few days to few weeks.

Both STP and VSTP show as just "STP" in RTT.

 

[A Challenge]

Does turning on CAN make the original schedules show up? Anyway, I would recommend try and choose a day with no non-WTT

 

[Gathursty]

Thanks for the definitions. I wanted to gauge how many trains you would go on if you started at MAN and rode back and forth between MCO all day accounting for a platform transfer time of 1 minute maximum at both stations before comparing them with other high frequency service pairs.

A follow up question: Would selecting WTT and VAR show up duplicates?

 

[TimboM]

Thanks for the definitions. I wanted to gauge how many trains you would go on if you started at MAN and rode back and forth between MCO all day accounting for a platform transfer time of 1 minute maximum at both stations before comparing them with other high frequency service pairs.

A follow up question: Would selecting WTT and VAR show up duplicates?

No - not on the desktop version at least - WTT / VAR / STP (incl VSTP) and CAN are all mutually exclusive.

 

[GB]

Both STP and VSTP show as just "STP" in RTT.

On the line up page yes. But when you click a particular service it will show as VSTP if it is VSTP.