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HullRailMan said:
Not sure where this has come, HT have been clear on twitter from the off that the are only having one HST set.
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Two sets as some one has pointed out before so if a power car or Mk3 needs an exam they can swap the set. As you say one set to cover for 180's and swap the other set weekly.
 
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43010 + Hull set + 3 extra vehicles + 43190 moved from SPM to Laira today.
 
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nat67 said:
Possibly 43027?
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As posted last week.
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And yes, 027 is likely to take place of 190.
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CC 72100 said:
43010 + Hull set + 3 extra vehicles + 43190 moved from SPM to Laira today.
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OC32 aka Hull Set 1 is heading down to Laira for it's overhaul, where the power car swap will be taking place. 010 to stay on the set with the change mentioned above for the rear PC.

Meanwhile, Hull set 2 aka OC31 43020 + 43023 has moved up from Laira to SPM and will take it's place on the Hull Diagram next week.

In response to the 2 set question mentioned above, one set will stay on a GW depot while the other is with Hull. They will swap out, but won't be working for Hull at the same time. This allows one to be in for maintenance while the other is operating and vice versa.
 
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fgwrich said:
As posted last week.




OC32 aka Hull Set 1 is heading down to Laira for it's overhaul, where the power car swap will be taking place. 010 to stay on the set with the change mentioned above for the rear PC.

Meanwhile, Hull set 2 aka OC31 43020 + 43023 has moved up from Laira to SPM and will take it's place on the Hull Diagram next week.

In response to the 2 set question mentioned above, one set will stay on a GW depot while the other is with Hull. They will swap out, but won't be working for Hull at the same time. This allows one to be in for maintenance while the other is operating and vice versa.
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Does that therefore mean that HT will have access to an HST for a longer period than the current Friday-Sunday set up?
 
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humbersidejim said:
Does that therefore mean that HT will have access to an HST for a longer period than the current Friday-Sunday set up?
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I don't believe so. The current set up is to remain for now, unless management at Hull change their minds. The servicing & Exams of the set are carried out at GWs St Philips Marsh & Laira depots so the days between Sunday and Thursday are spent carrying those out.
 
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fgwrich said:
I don't believe so. The current set up is to remain for now, unless management at Hull change their minds. The servicing & Exams of the set are carried out at GWs St Philips Marsh & Laira depots so the days between Sunday and Thursday are spent carrying those out.
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That the set has to return to SPM for even the most basic A exam is frankly shambolic and an utter waste of time and money (unless you’re the company doing the move!).
 
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Do the hire costs and delivery to and from Hull in drivers fuel and track access charges etc justify just a handful of return trips on Friday and Saturday only?
 
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That the set has to return to SPM for even the most basic A exam is frankly shambolic and an utter waste of time and money (unless you’re the company doing the move!).
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Where else is it gonna be done?
NL is full, Crofton are imcompetent, I'm not sure Botanic Gardens can do that work, and they'd have to taxi up staff from SPM anyway!
 
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cactustwirly said:
Where else is it gonna be done?
NL is full, Crofton are imcompetent, I'm not sure Botanic Gardens can do that work, and they'd have to taxi up staff from SPM anyway!
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You mean everyone else saw WorstGroup coming and laughed in their face?
 
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43096 said:
That the set has to return to SPM for even the most basic A exam is frankly shambolic and an utter waste of time and money (unless you’re the company doing the move!).
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Or it's First Group being shrewd and keeping the maintenance in house with the people that look after it's own HST Sets. If OOC Was still open, im sure they'd be maintained there. Reading isn't unfortunately set up to do it, so SPM for the lighter stuff and Laira for the heavier stuff seems the most plausible way to do it. Even if it does include basic A Exams that probably could be done in other depots. Im not First's biggest fan anymore either, but sometimes keeping things simpler like this does make a little sense! :rolleyes:
 
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fgwrich said:
Or it's First Group being shrewd and keeping the maintenance in house with the people that look after it's own HST Sets. If OOC Was still open, im sure they'd be maintained there. Reading isn't unfortunately set up to do it, so SPM for the lighter stuff and Laira for the heavier stuff seems the most plausible way to do it. Even if it does include basic A Exams that probably could be done in other depots. Im not First's biggest fan anymore either, but sometimes keeping things simpler like this does make a little sense! :rolleyes:
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It is not shrewd to be paying out to move stuff half way across the country and back again every week and leaving Hull with no cover for three days whilst they do so. Do agree that if the Oak was still open it would have made it much easier.
 
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cactustwirly said:
Hmm, well Neville Hill is actually full, that's why the 43/4s are allocated to Etches Park!
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Or because they are operating former 222 diagrams so Etches is a much more natural home. Neville Hill are still doing the heavier work on them.
 
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That the set has to return to SPM for even the most basic A exam is frankly shambolic and an utter waste of time and money (unless you’re the company doing the move!).
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Are you aware of another depot that has the ability to maintain HSTs, is closer and has the capacity to do it?

Frankly, First being willing to go to the effort and expense of using the HST - despite it being 'less than convenient' - should be applauded rather than moaned about. HT isn't franchised, so any expense generated will be funded directly from First's coffers.
 
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DaiGog said:
Current plan for this week is to use it Thursday and Friday on the usual diagram (Hull dep 0823, KGX dep 1148, Hull 1512, KGX 1848) then the afternoon return trip (1531/1948) on Saturday.
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Thanks for confirming - its a pity its not running tomorrow and on Wednesday as I will be staying in the Yorkshire area tomorrow night and could have fitted in a trip to Hull on it.
 
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