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I see today that Carl Heneghan's article on the Danish mask study has been 'fact-checked' and marked as 'false information' by Facebook.

Anyone who still thinks it is just the nutty conspiracy theories being censored needs to realise what is now going on here, before freedom of expression and even freedom of thought go the same way as our freedom to protest. This is really bad.
 
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I see today that Carl Heneghan's article on the Danish mask study has been 'fact-checked' and marked as 'false information' by Facebook.

Anyone who still thinks it is just the nutty conspiracy theories being censored needs to realise what is now going on here, before freedom of expression and even freedom of thought go the same way as our freedom to protest. This is really bad.

Quite. Science is now being censored, so we are in dangerous territory.

Obviously the social media companies must be loving everybody in constant lockdown, only talking to their contacts via their platforms, and clicking on the ads for online shopping... This is getting really disturbing.
 

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Also it looks like YouTube is removing Mike Yeadon's interviews, of which nothing in them is actually incorrect.
 

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On the subject of spreading false information it just occurred to me that I don't recall seeing or hearing anything from Vallance and Whitty recently. I certainly don't recall them being involved in the Downing street briefings since the first vaccine announcement, making me believe that their scaremongering data has either by their own choice or that of the Government led them out of the spotlight.

Does Ofcom apply to radio? If so, TalkRadio are getting away with it, they certainly are not toeing the party line with their opinions on COVID, especially not Julia Hartley Brewer, Mike Graham, Richard Madeley and Dan Wootton. I can't say I was a fan of these people pre COVID, particularly JHB & Wootton but I do really respect them speaking out and challenging the government.

Really worrying if that gets enforced as that shuts down freedom of speech and enters dictatorship territory. It's bad enough now that had it happened a year ago in any other country, we'd rightly be appalled!
If any of that happens it won't happen quietly: I imagine any of the Government Ministers who've appeared on it would keep quiet, but MPs like Sir Desmond Swayne and Sir Iain Duncan Smith who have made regular appearances on there, voicing criticism of the whole approach, will get up in arms and do everything they can to make such repression known about in Parliament and the wider mainstream media.
 
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It doesn't even trace the infections to supermarkets. The question asked by T&T is "where have you been in the week leading up to your positive test". Of course the place where most people have been is a supermarket. Doesn't mean that you caught it there. This is shoddy misreporting bordering on criminal.
No wonder, then, that a thread exists on Twitter with the hashtag #WhyAreTheyDoingThis
Some parts of the media seem to be little more than a propaganda arm of the government.

I wonder how many of the general public are aware of these restrictions when they take everything they hear on the news to be gospel.
The general population doesn’t know what’s happening... and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know!!

Also it looks like YouTube is removing Mike Yeadon's interviews, of which nothing in them is actually incorrect.
Dr Vernon Coleman was ridiculed by some commentators, but some of his predictions about mandatory masks, the ability to use cash being almost entirely removed (it’s now common to see ‘card only’ or ‘no cash’ signs in retailers), government diktats controlling / curtailing many of our freedoms, virtue-signalling and shaming of non-conformers to name but a few.
 
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Does Ofcom apply to radio? If so, TalkRadio are getting away with it, they certainly are not toeing the party line with their opinions on COVID, especially not Julia Hartley Brewer, Mike Graham, Richard Madeley and Dan Wootton. I can't say I was a fan of these people pre COVID, particularly JHB & Wootton but I do really respect them speaking out and challenging the government.
I get the impression that both the BBC and SKY are very pro lockdown so have no desire to challenge the government line at the moment. TalkRadio is much more balanced and is willing to challenge wishy washy advice and statements.

The general population doesn’t know what’s happening... and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know!!
That pretty much sums it up.
 

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The general population doesn’t know what’s happening... and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know!!
I work with some people who have an alleged science background and they still argue about dangers, masks etc but appears they still believe Government drivel. Obviously they're not prepared to look for evidence and just take what they're told at face value, it's shameful really that people like that don't bother to look to see if what they're told is correct.
 

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As we get further into the respiratory virus season, the number of people at work who are becoming ill with other viruses continues to increase (as is usual for this time of year), and it continues to be the case that those who are actually rather ill all test negative for Sars-Cov-2, while all those who test positive are asymptomatic or have a very mild illness.

The media, as a whole, generally continue to paint a very different picture to the reality. But more and more people are becoming aware of what the reality is!
 

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Apols on two counts:

1) It’s the Daily Mail; I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.

2) I’m on my phone so can’t post the text summary right now.


For the Mail to publish something like this is quite the tide turn, IMO.
 

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I see today that Carl Heneghan's article on the Danish mask study has been 'fact-checked' and marked as 'false information' by Facebook.

Anyone who still thinks it is just the nutty conspiracy theories being censored needs to realise what is now going on here, before freedom of expression and even freedom of thought go the same way as our freedom to protest. This is really bad.
I've been engaged in a heated debate on my Facebook feed with a couple of people over this. Both seem perfectly happy for a scientifically run study to be censored because "masks save lives". Even when I offered the link to it they continued to refuse to believe that it was in any way credible, one even trying to justify it being marked as fake by Facebook. Such is the complete brainwashing that some have allowed themselves to succumb to. These really are worrying times.
 

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Apols on two counts:

1) It’s the Daily Mail; I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.

2) I’m on my phone so can’t post the text summary right now.


For the Mail to publish something like this is quite the tide turn, IMO.
I wouldn't call it quite the tide turn, as the Mail have been anti the current strategy for a while (they had a front page headline "Don't do it Boris!" on the threats of lockdown 2 for example). However it does keep a chunk of society opposed to the current strategy and further pressure the party the paper normally supports.
 

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I'd like to see more mainstream/centrist media outlets run with articles like this, but I don't think that will happen any time soon.

The BBC run some articles quoting people who argue against lockdowns but it's very limited in scope and they tend to be drowned out by the hyperbolic articles which support the hysterical brigade. I can't imagine they will admit things like the current level of hospital admissions is normal for this time of year.
 

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Apols on two counts:

1) It’s the Daily Mail; I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.

2) I’m on my phone so can’t post the text summary right now.


For the Mail to publish something like this is quite the tide turn, IMO.

Seems the article has gained the official disapproval of Hancock's Ministry for Information.
"This article is misleading. This is a global pandemic - national restrictions have been introduced to keep people safe and save lives. It is vital people follow the rules and continue to stay at home so we can bring the transmission rates back down and get back to normality."

 

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Seems the article has gained the official disapproval of Hancock's Ministry for Information.
"This article is misleading. This is a global pandemic - national restrictions have been introduced to keep people safe and save lives. It is vital people follow the rules and continue to stay at home so we can bring the transmission rates back down and get back to normality."


They just repeat the same tired old catch-phrases without actualy addressing the points being made!

The comments give a good indication of the public opinion though.
 

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Seems the article has gained the official disapproval of Hancock's Ministry for Information.
"This article is misleading. This is a global pandemic - national restrictions have been introduced to keep people safe and save lives. It is vital people follow the rules and continue to stay at home so we can bring the transmission rates back down and get back to normality."

But seems whatever we do there's no chance of getting back to normality as they always find a new reason for restrictions. Wish they'd stop trotting out the saving lives phrase, they don't seem to have any grip on reality. Is it still counted as a global pandemic? How does it compare to flu at the moment? Don't know answers so hoping someone can help on those?
 

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You can always tell when government officials have run out of arguments: they just resort to saying "we're saving lives". It has echoes of "take back control" from a different evidence-free government policy.
 

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But seems whatever we do there's no chance of getting back to normality as they always find a new reason for restrictions. Wish they'd stop trotting out the saving lives phrase, they don't seem to have any grip on reality. Is it still counted as a global pandemic? How does it compare to flu at the moment? Don't know answers so hoping someone can help on those?


I wonder if normality to them or they want is this "new normal" ? Didn't Boris let alone Sturgeon say the same thing about a "new normal" than getting back to our "old" normal? (stand to be corrected) :)

You can always tell when government officials have run out of arguments: they just resort to saying "we're saving lives". It has echoes of "take back control" from a different evidence-free government policy.


Maybe that part of "saving lives" should be thrown back at them in a different way as to do with other health issues?

ie if they said but we are.... media: no you are not, people with mental and physical health are suffering due to these lockdowns what you going to do to support them? (just example here... but UK media as a whole are like lapdogs to the UK and devolved parliaments... ask questions get banned!)
 

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The tweet now appears to have been deleted! Was that by the government or by Twitter, I wonder?
 

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The tweet now appears to have been deleted! Was that by the government or by Twitter, I wonder?

The Mail did report on the tweeted response from the DHSC, so you can still read it here:


Anger flared last night after the Department of Health and Social Care’s Twitter account was used in an effort to rubbish a report challenging official scaremongering by analysing key facts about the coronavirus pandemic.
 

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I wonder if all it did was promote the article?

The Mail did report on the tweeted response from the DHSC, so you can still read it here:

I get the feeling the Government shot themselves in the foot with that move (although the way things are going I'd be surprised if metaphorically they have any feet left to shoot). As one of the most read newspapers nationally that will have annoyed a lot of people and most certainly deepened the editorial board's dislike of the current Government.
 

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I get the feeling the Government shot themselves in the foot with that move (although the way things are going I'd be surprised if metaphorically they have any feet left to shoot). As one of the most read newspapers nationally that will have annoyed a lot of people and most certainly deepened the editorial board's dislike of the current Government.

Good! Hopefully we will see a slew of front-page stories criticising the government over the next few weeks.
 

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Apols on two counts:

1) It’s the Daily Mail; I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
Why apologise. The Daily Mail has been by far the best paper for supplying a balanced view during this virus outbreak. It is a pity that the same cannot be said about the broadcast media.
 

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Why apologise. The Daily Mail has been by far the best paper for supplying a balanced view during this virus outbreak. It is a pity that the same cannot be said about the broadcast media.
The Mail is a lot better since Paul Dacre ceased to be editor. He personified the image problem they have.
 

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They do kind of shoot themselves in the foot when they call Sir Patrick Vallance the CMO in the article -- not a lot of sub-editing going on there. It's also in the print edition today.

The Mail is a lot better since Paul Dacre ceased to be editor. He personified the image problem they have.

100% agree with this.
 

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I hear Nina Myskow has been opining on Jeremy Vine today. Another one of the "if only everyone did as they're told there wouldn't be any problem" brigade, in spite of the fact that Coronavirus is a seasonal virus and millions of people are being told to mix in various settings anyway. At least on "New Faces" her nonsense was relatively harmless.
 

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As an increasingly reluctant reader of the Guardian, I’ve found it interesting to compare and contrast the way pharmaceutical companies are portrayed in the paper before and after the emergence of vaccine options.

Prior to the pandemic the paper took a dim view of the industry, for example in
this editorial from early 2019:
The Grauniad said:
Companies blame the cost of [drug] development and say they need to recoup their investment before rivals are able to pile in with generic competitors. They are less keen to acknowledge their often sky-high profits, the fact that some put more into share buy-backs than research and development, and the reality that many new offerings are “me-too” variations rather than game-changing innovations. Patients and shareholders are likely to draw the line that distinguishes a fair reward from greedy profiteering in very different places...

In the early months of the pandemic, to be fair, they maintained their stance, for example here
Ara Darzi in the Graun said:
When it comes to the pharmaceutical companies, how should we judge their response? They, after all, hold the key to ending the pandemic. Yet... their behaviour has more in common with the supermarket hoarders than the neighbourhood groups.

But since the emergence of efficacious vaccine candidates, there’s a lot of gushing articles like this praising pharma companies and their scientists.
The Grauniad said:
Scientists appear to have performed an amazing feat, the rest of us must do our best too... The inspiring news that a Covid vaccine appears within reach, with interim results showing the Pfizer/BioNTech candidate has 90% efficacy in protecting people from illness, reflects the extraordinary efforts of scientists this year. The speed with which this one has been developed – with others close behind – is remarkable.

What’s prompted this massive change in tone from ‘evil racketeering multinational conglomerates’ to ‘saviour of all mankind’?

Is it because Guardian staffers are still jumping in the road to avoid walking past people and fumigating their shopping? Have they started to believe their alarmist Covid coverage so much that they are living for the day they can troop in a Hazmat suit into a draughty Brutalist town hall to be given a product by a company they spent years slating?

The lack of consistency just grates, in a pandemic where the rich are getting richer and socioeconomic deprivation is becoming more and more widespread you’d think a left-wing paper would be campaigning to ensure big pharma corporations provide fair and equitable vaccine access to all, addressing problems like unaffordable drug pricing, pharma monopolies and rich countries’ vaccine nationalism as they scramble to buy up all potential vaccine doses.
 

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Why apologise. The Daily Mail has been by far the best paper for supplying a balanced view during this virus outbreak. It is a pity that the same cannot be said about the broadcast media.
Sure, the Daily Mail might report some things right, but they are massive hypocrites in the way they report, and often ridiculously hysterical. They have a right-wing bias, and their ownership is particularly dodgy. They are far from balanced.
It’s a shame so many people are comfortable reading from a bias, misleading and hypocritical publication.

P.s. The Mail may no longer have the lovely Paul Dacre as it’s editor, but he is still Editor-in-Chief of DMG media, which owns the DM, Mail on Sunday, Metro and the clickbait Mailonline website.
 
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