Easing of Coronavirus restrictions in Scotland

[Failed Unit]

I wonder how the mask rule will affect the nightclub industry.

Come to Newcastle. imagine if any English city did try that. Come to x clubs, no mask, no tracing, no social distancing. I can hear the explosion now.

 

[MDB1images]

I congratulate the FM on doing the impossible and uniting Celtic and Rangers fans(no mean feat).
Sadly for her it relates to utter disgust at her 'policy' that states Scottish football clubs must apply for permission to host crowds of over 5,000 when the country moves 'beyond Level 0' restrictions from Monday.

 

[nedchester]

I wonder how the mask rule will affect the nightclub industry.

Nightclubbers will declare themselves exempt......

 

[Merseysider]

I wonder how the mask rule will affect the nightclub industry.

Thinking about exemptions under law, eating and drinking is outlined as one example where a mask doesn’t need to be worn.

Imagine it now:

*put mask on to queue up outside nightclub*
*take mask off to get ID checked*
*put mask on to pay the cover charge*
*take mask off to drink your beer*
*put mask on to go to the toilet*
*take mask off to drink again*
*put mask on to go to the bar*

...

Makes perfect sense.

 

[kez19]

I congratulate the FM on doing the impossible and uniting Celtic and Rangers fans(no mean feat).
Sadly for her it relates to utter disgust at her 'policy' that states Scottish football clubs must apply for permission to host crowds of over 5,000 when the country moves 'beyond Level 0' restrictions from Monday.

How is that going to work? Clubs seek permission via SFA? (I’m not a footy fan but I wonder if the SFA will get a say or do some persuasion here)

 

[brad465]

Is it okay to start referring to her as Nicola Ceausescu?

 

[MDB1images]

How is that going to work? Clubs seek permission via SFA? (I’m not a footy fan but I wonder if the SFA will get a say or do some persuasion here)

They need to apply to the local council for the increase.

 

[Scotrail314209]

Thinking about exemptions under law, eating and drinking is outlined as one example where a mask doesn’t need to be worn.

Imagine it now:

*put mask on to queue up outside nightclub*
*take mask off to get ID checked*
*put mask on to pay the cover charge*
*take mask off to drink your beer*
*put mask on to go to the toilet*
*take mask off to drink again*
*put mask on to go to the bar*

...

Makes perfect sense.

You forgot:

- Put mask on to dance.

 

[kez19]

They need to apply to the local council for the increase.

I wonder how quick the local council’s response will be? I wonder if clubs will be bothered to even apply?

You forgot:

- Put mask on to dance.

Also… face each other in opposite directions whilst dancing..

 

[MattA7]

I wonder if pubs and restaurants in Scotland still have to maintain the table service only rule.

 

[Solent&Wessex]

I wonder if pubs and restaurants in Scotland still have to maintain the table service only rule.

Good question.

If there are no capacity limits or social distancing requirements in hospitality then I'm not entirely sure what the point of wearing a mask is?

Also the requirement to collect name and contact details in hospitality is less easy when any number of people can walk in and out unrestricted and stand around inside without limits.

 

[island]

If there are no capacity limits or social distancing requirements in hospitality then I'm not entirely sure what the point of wearing a mask is?

Makes people feel safer innit

 

[devon_metro]

Good question.

If there are no capacity limits or social distancing requirements in hospitality then I'm not entirely sure what the point of wearing a mask is?

Also the requirement to collect name and contact details in hospitality is less easy when any number of people can walk in and out unrestricted and stand around inside without limits.

Sounds like "vertical drinking" (yes really) is to be banned. So whilst capacity limits will be removed, venues will probably be limited by how many people then can seat. As usual, Scottish "Government" completely removed from reality.

 

[MattA7]

Does the SNP really think we are stupid enough not to realize the replacing restrictions with “mitigation measures” is basically the same thing.

 

[Ian Cunningham]

Sounds like "vertical drinking" (yes really) is to be banned. So whilst capacity limits will be removed, venues will probably be limited by how many people then can seat. As usual, Scottish "Government" completely removed from reality.

Despite what Swinney said this morning, vertical drinking (and drinking at the bar) will be allowed - Scottish Licenced Trade Association tweeted that after a meeting with ScotGov and Jason Leitch confirmed that in an interview later in the day. He also suggested that face coverings in nightclubs would not be required "It does seem to me a bit odd to ask people to dance with face coverings on. I don't think we will be doing that."

Quite why this guidance was not thought through and published with the FM's statement is unfathomable considering they have had weeks to prepare and we're only a few days from the changes

 

[yorkie]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1423000805339275267

NEW: Covid rules in Scotland:

X School assemblies banned
✓ Mass gatherings allowed

X School discos banned
✓ Nightclubs open

X School plays not allowed
✓ Theatres open

X No school trips
✓ Everyone else can do whatever they want

If this is true, the Scottish Government are an absolute disgrace and they will pay the price for this.

 

[kez19]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1423000805339275267

If this is true, the Scottish Government are an absolute disgrace and they will pay the price for this.

It’s laughable though when you look at school assemblies banned what’s Holyrood then?

 

[Scotrail314209]

It’s laughable though when you look at school assemblies banned what’s Holyrood then?

Nursery

It is a bit silly that school assemblies are banned, theres nothing wrong with them nor do they spread COVID.

 

[GusB]

To be honest, school assemblies being banned isn't really a bad thing

 

[kez19]

Nursery

It is a bit silly that school assemblies are banned, theres nothing wrong with them nor do they spread COVID.

Unless the school assemblies have changed since I left high school?

I remember assemblies were held for like Christmas/Easter and then if anything important came about (run up to exams) is all I can remember for my time.

 

[Scotrail314209]

Unless the school assemblies have changed since I left high school?

I remember assemblies were held for like Christmas/Easter and then if anything important came about (run up to exams) is all I can remember for my time.

All I remember are the primary school ones being nothing but singing songs and getting certificates, and the secondary school ones being completely random waffle.

 

[kez19]

All I remember are the primary school ones being nothing but singing songs and getting certificates, and the secondary school ones being completely random waffle.

but surely assemblies by year than say s1-3

 

[MattA7]

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1423000805339275267

If this is true, the Scottish Government are an absolute disgrace and they will pay the price for this.

why is she so obsessed with ruining kids/young people’s education especially given they are probably at lowest risk from the virus. Pre-vaccination times she would have said “to protect grandma” but grandma should be fully vaccinated now and is probably horrified at being used as a excuse to ruin her grandchildren’s education.

 

[Failed Unit]

Be interesting to see the difference in infections per 100k population in a few months. If it is about the same it will be helping prove her extra restrictions are pointless.

 

[Highlandspring]

Jason Leitch confirmed that in an interview later in the day. He also suggested that face coverings in nightclubs would not be required "It does seem to me a bit odd to ask people to dance with face coverings on. I don't think we will be doing that."

This isn’t the first time that celebrity dentist Jason Leitch has apparently decided on changes to legislation on the hoof while answering questions during a radio show. He always talks as if he’s First Minister.

 

[Huntergreed]

If masks are not required in nightclubs, where people will be crammed in like sardines dancing together with no ventilation and no consideration for COVID at all, then I fail to see how the Scottish government can even begin to justify the mandate elsewhere.

 

[Failed Unit]

Maybe the Scottish government hasn't seen this.

Covid: Lincoln rate highest in England as outbreak linked to club

High infection rates are being linked to an outbreak at a city centre nightclub, health bosses say.

www.bbc.co.uk

A Covid-19 infection spike in Lincoln has been pinpointed to a nightclub in the city, health bosses have said.
New cases increased by 83% to 649 in the week to 29 July, giving the area England's highest infection rate of 654 per 100,000 people.
The Wharf and University district, a popular destination for bars, clubs and restaurants, recorded a rate of 1,140.
Natalie Liddle, from Public Health Lincolnshire, said the majority of cases were in people aged under 30.
"We are currently managing a cluster of outbreaks in and around Lincoln - and we've seen a particular increase in cases linked to the night-time economy," she said.
"We are particularly dealing with one large outbreak at the moment, [and] that has impacted a large number of people."
Ms Liddle declined to name the venue involved.

Now what is odd about this is that the spike is concentrated on 1 ward. If it was linked to the nightclub I would expect a larger spread of case. I suspect that it is a group of people that went out together and happened to go to a nightclub. Had the nightclub not being open they would have spread it to each other anyway at the other places they were together. Can't prove this of course, but nightclubs attract people from a large area not just the ward it happens to be in.

 

[35B]

Maybe the Scottish government hasn't seen this.

Covid: Lincoln rate highest in England as outbreak linked to club

High infection rates are being linked to an outbreak at a city centre nightclub, health bosses say.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now what is odd about this is that the spike is concentrated on 1 ward. If it was linked to the nightclub I would expect a larger spread of case. I suspect that it is a group of people that went out together and happened to go to a nightclub. Had the nightclub not being open they would have spread it to each other anyway at the other places they were together. Can't prove this of course, but nightclubs attract people from a large area not just the ward it happens to be in.

In Lincoln, that's not necessarily the case - there's a very strongly defined university area, that's still a bit of an island on the edge of the city centre. It would however be interesting to know the basis for her assertion - we don't know from that report whether the cases were in a group, or in unconnected individuals who happened to visit a single venue.

 

[Failed Unit]

In Lincoln, that's not necessarily the case - there's a very strongly defined university area, that's still a bit of an island on the edge of the city centre. It would however be interesting to know the basis for her assertion - we don't know from that report whether the cases were in a group, or in unconnected individuals who happened to visit a single venue.

I did think that, but the universities are all closed. However I guess some students may chose to stay.

 

[35B]

I did think that, but the universities are all closed. However I guess some students may chose to stay.

Most, but not all. Postgrad courses keep running, and some - especially medical - courses have very different holiday patterns.