Which part?
The apparent outcome would effectively be that outboundary users of TfL would effectively "pay twice" for the part of their journey in London, that is they would have to buy a day return from the outboundary location to the London terminal and then directly pay TfL through PAYG for travel around Zone 1 (or wider as appropriate). I imagine that most outboundary travelcard use is in Zone 1 on TfL services so TfL would end up with a bigger share of the revenue.
It may not be like this in practice. Central Government wants extension of PAYG to a wider area in any case and it seems to be what their voters want (until they see the prices that will be charged). If PAYG is extended, there is no need for paper travelcards (although there are places you can buy a paper travelcard from which are definitely not going to have PAYG fares to London).
It should be July, which was 3.8%.
That's at least something, although heaven knows what the fare increase might look like in 2023 given these sort of inflation figures.
Don't these services have the except national rail tickets when going on National Rail infrastructure
Not really, no more than North Yorkshire Moors Railway services do.
Indeed why not, but there is a general view that this would affect less well off people who use buses. The analogy is usually that you can travel long distances by underground changing lines as necessary but each bus trip had to be paid for separately. That isn't really a level playing field for bus and underground users.
Sorry I meant if travelling as a family.
Doesn't seem to bother the continental cities who offer deep discounts for groups of 4 or more...
You can get a uber from Hayes to Heathrow for close to that price though
As you well know, commercial approaches to local public transport in European cities are fairly rare. They're overwhelmingly publicly funded, and for good reasons.
If travelling to Heathrow (during normal service patterns), it’s likely the first Piccadilly line train won’t be going to your destination and you’d need to either wait or change anyway. In this case there’s no hardship to breaking.
Having to leave a train at Hatton Cross is more likely to be frustrating however. Then again perhaps the plus is that if you do that, it's cheaper to get the bus for the last 10 minutes into the Airport!
How many people with bags take the Piccadilly line to Heathrow?
If this works as “Zone 1-Heathrow peak, anything else as current”, then the cheapest split will be Earl’s Court as that’s a boundary zone, and non-Z1 off peak TfL fares don’t increase beyond three covered zones.
If they didn’t care, they’d have been on the HEX and not on the Piccadilly line from Zone 1 in the first place
