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Trivia: unwritten etiquette as a railway passenger

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1) not sure what the problem is hereby it isn't anybody else's business.
2) definitely nobodyy else's business
3) applies to anything carried on provided there's room in the luggage rack
4) why is that bad etiquette, - I'd be too embarrassed to do that
5) it's neither rude to speak or not to speak except to harass somebody or interrupt. Content of speech is though.
6) sounds like an inferiority complex is working here
7) presumably said by somebody who is familiar with the route. How is somebody expected to know exactly when to go to the door on to heir first trip on the route?

If these are really seen as worthy of a 'poor etiquette' label then clearly you have never experienced travelling with any real problem passengers.
I wasn't suggesting they were poor etiquette. If you look at the post in context, it was a light-hearted reply to an equally light-hearted remark about guaranteeing yourself space on a crowded train. If I had suggested they were poor etiquette, I would be guilty on multiple charges of each count: it was a tangent, though, and I do apologise.
 
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Oh yes. Also, one or all of the following:
1) Wearing a thick winter coat on a very warm day in the middle of summer
2) Continuing to wear a rather large face mask despite COVID restrictions/high numbers being long past
3) Having an enormous rucksack yet resolutely refusing to stick it in the luggage rack
4) Clutching a rather tattered notebook with lots of colour-coded train numbers scrawled on it in appalling handwriting
5) Talking to total strangers (if in the south)/not talking to total strangers (in the north)
6) Reading a rather intellectual-looking book
7) Standing by the door waiting to get off several minutes before your train is even approaching the station you wish to get off at
generally marks you out as the sort of oddball that no one wants to sit (or stand) next to, definitely from personal experience anyway! ;)

I'm guilty of point 7, but will only do so when travelling to the nearest station if the journey time is 5 mins or less, by the time you sit down it'll be time to get back up. Have done point 5 from time to time but not often, sometimes to give help or just to have a small conversation.

If i see someone doing point 6 i'd actually look the book up and consider buying a copy of it, and can't say i do points 1 through 4 (mainly as my notes of train numbers are stored in notes on my phone or in computer documents).
 

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Don’t stand in the aisle and remove/put on your coat with a huge flourish that swipes the person sitting across the aisle. Likewise striding through the train with your coat slung over one shoulder, and brushing every aisle occupant you walk by.

Chaps - if you speak to a female who is on her own, don’t take a polite acknowledgment as an indication that she wants to engage in conversation.
 

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Chaps - if you speak to a female who is on her own, don’t take a polite acknowledgment as an indication that she wants to engage in conversation.

Probably just not doing this at all is the best approach!
 
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Don’t stand in the aisle and remove/put on your coat with a huge flourish that swipes the person sitting across the aisle. Likewise striding through the train with your coat slung over one shoulder, and brushing every aisle occupant you walk by.
Similarly - Don't throw your rucksack around with carefree abandon when taking it off or putting it on, and mind it's corners as you walk down the aisle to avoid clipping shoulders (or heads). Particularly on 2+3 layouts. If your rucksack is too heavy to handle slowly it's probably too much weight to be putting on your back.
 

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One I observed:

Don't make a homophobic comment to two women on their way home to Brighton.

Indeed, don't make homophobic, racist, sexist or other offensive comments to any fellow passengers.
 

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One I observed:

Don't make a homophobic comment to two women on their way home to Brighton.

Indeed, don't make homophobic, racist, sexist or other offensive comments to any fellow passengers.
How can one think it is suitable to make a homophobic comment to two women who were travelling to one of the most LGBT friendly cities? How

Did you intervene at all?
 

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How can one think it is suitable to make a homophobic comment to two women who were travelling to one of the most LGBT friendly cities? How

Did you intervene at all?

How can one think it is suitable to make a homophobic comment to anybody, ever?
 

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How can one think it is suitable to make a homophobic comment to two women who were travelling to one of the most LGBT friendly cities? How

Did you intervene at all?
The person in question immediately realised the offence they had caused and became apologetic.
 

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How can one think it is suitable to make a homophobic comment to anybody, ever?
Yes indeed. I should've reworded my post but any discrimination of any kind should never be tolerated and such offences should be reported to nearest railway staff or the police if possible,
 

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When you're done with your polystyrene food container don't just dump it on a seat; And when you (someone else) boards the now busy train, don't angrily throw the container onto another seat spilling uneaten chips all over it. And when you (first person again) alights, pick up your mess and take your rubbish with you (all observed last night).
 

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Don’t make sudden loud noises, play loud music, or make noisy phone calls directly outside the driver’s or guards cab, as I can imagine this may be very distracting!
 

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Don’t make sudden loud noises, play loud music, or make noisy phone calls directly outside the driver’s or guards cab, as I can imagine this may be very distracting! anywhere on the train.

There, fixed that for you.
 

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Do not use the wider ticket gates if you don't have a cycle, pram, wheelchair or bulky luggage! Was travelling back from Dunkeld with my bike a couple of months ago and on disembarking at Queen Street found a small queue of maybe 3 or 4 people faffing at the wide gate (probably searching their wallets for their tickets). With a connection to make at Glasgow Central, I decided to chance using a standard gate, only to be mildly chided by a member of gate line staff as they came to release my bike when my saddle got 'caught in its jaws'!

How long did you have between connections, bearing in mind the minimum interchange time is 30 minutes between Queen Street and Central?
 

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What annoys me is

People who eat and drink on trains. Ever. And people who have eaten or drink before they get on. Ever. In their lives. You either exist through the processing and consumption of foods and liquids or you get the train. Make a choice.

If you’ve reserved a seat, for God’s sake take it home with you. Got on an Azuma the other day and the filthy buggers had left over 300 on it. Makes me sick.

The Penge West Feather Duster Bandits (though their numbers have been thinned out by first to last gatelines)

Staff pass holders who travel in the passenger accommodation instead of sprawled on the front of the train like Buster Keaton WHERE THEY BELONG

Guards on the South WCML who never come out of the middle cab but spend the whole time lying recumbent on the driver’s seat sniffing a loaf of stale bread and mumbling segments of the songs of Showaddywaddy to themselves

People who have an on train seance and don’t wipe up the ectoplasm after them

People who disrespect the atmosphere of the quiet carriage! Honestly is it so hard to do your sacrificial chants to Lucifer in the vestibule?! And they ALWAYS do them in a guttural East Midlands accent it just sounds so wrong!! Satanism was aspirational in my day now it’s all “come out your eternal pit me duck”. Kids….

When people turn round with large bags they always leave the zips open and artefacts come flying out, I was at Salford Crescent the other week and this inconsiderate LOUT caught a nice old lady in the face with the Holy Grail, you never used to see this before the 319s came in, bloody northern powerhouse

That thing you have to do on Class 323s with the duck and the xylophone just to be able to get past the Gatekeeper and sit down, I won’t even write it out here but honestly I’d rather get the bus

The endless chirpy but damaging voice I hear in the toilets of Pendolinos (namely my conscience telling me an exhaustive list of all the social faux pas I made when I was 14)

That nobody at Euston ticket office will sell me a ticket for this mythical train called the “Pizza Express” I’ve heard so much about

When people are sat in the seat someone else reserved and they just dissolve into stardust and are shifted outside the astral plane as the passenger who has stolen their seat absorb their consciousness and memories, leaving a withered husk of their corporeal vessel in the aisle that is really hard for the trolley attendant to get past

Sensory stimulation on trains. It shouldn’t be socially acceptable to have such damaging intrusions on my senses. Literally all the way to Glasgow one year I was touching something pretty much the whole time. I stripped naked and jumped up in the air a few times but it didn’t last. Unacceptable.
Genius. Made my evening.
Or do your make-up/paint your nails. Just get up earlier and do it at home.
I can't see how it hurts anyone else for someone to be applying makeup!
 

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People who catch the same train as me.

Just because I can't afford to hire Caroline and 37901 why should I have to share?
 

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Genius. Made my evening.

I can't see how it hurts anyone else for someone to be applying makeup!
For one,there's the smell of some makeup, which may trigger allergies for other passengers. How would some of those (mainly women) feel about men fitting in a shave whilst sitting on a crowded train?
 

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Put your rubbish in the available bin or take it with you off the train to a station bin.
Take your newspaper with you not leaving it on the seat so it could fall on the floor.
 

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If you leave your newspaper behind on a table where someone might pick it up and read it, don’t leave it smeared inside with the remnants of your meal (even if not part-chewed) or a heavily used paper hankie.
 

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Put your rubbish in the available bin or take it with you off the train to a station bin.
Take your newspaper with you not leaving it on the seat so it could fall on the floor.
I leave the newspaper on the table or seat to be fair. So the next person can read it?
 

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I leave the newspaper on the table or seat to be fair. So the next person can read it?
Yeah, I haven’t been doing this for a while (pandemic etc) but always did this and appreciate when it happens to me if I’ve been unable to grab a copy of I’m in a hurry or running late etc.

Newspaper karma
 

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I leave the newspaper on the table or seat to be fair. So the next person can read it?
If it's any consolation one thing I do when changing ends and tidying my trains as a conductor is survey abandoned newspapers - decent ones get folded and placed neatly on tables, wrecked ones get binned. Little things no one probably notices :lol:
 

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Do I take it from these comments that some people don't want people to sit next to them, look at them, speak to anyone, eat anything, use any electronic device or move around the train? If so, their best solution might be to buy a car.
 

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Do I take it from these comments that some people don't want people to sit next to them, look at them, speak to anyone, eat anything, use any electronic device or move around the train? If so, their best solution might be to buy a car.

Or make sure you only sit in the driving cab when you travel by train ;).
 

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Do I take it from these comments that some people don't want people to sit next to them, look at them, speak to anyone, eat anything, use any electronic device or move around the train? If so, their best solution might be to buy a car.
Unfortunately many people do use the car instead of the train for these very reasons - and the result is congested roads and pollution. Undoubtedly the biggest drawbacks to using the trains are service reliability and (for non-advanced tickets) cost. But anti-social behaviours also put people off travelling by train. Whilst not everything in this thread constitutes that, there really should be much more effort made to clamp down and punish the worst of such conduct.
 
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