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Ivo's Adventures 2: The West of Wales

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After the events of the preceding Tuesday, Saturday 26th February 2011 had a lot to live up to. And when combined with the rest of the last few days' activities, including two Great Escape runs and also London the night before, over 1,750mi (by all of 10ch :lol:) were covered! But each of the preceding three had been vastly different - and this was to be no exception. Of note, though, is that every journey ran as planned!

I returned from London the previous night feeling rather unwell. I had become overheated, to the point that the buffet staff on the HST from London gave me complimentary water to help, and thus had been contemplating bailing for three days and going to the West of Wales on Tuesday (1st March) instead. As it turned out, I felt well enough (but still not perfect) come 09:00, so I went ahead with the plan - but took some shorts along just in case.

The journey to Cardiff was rather dull. A girl from a certain University that Ivo does not like [i.e. Bath] sat opposite, and were it not for me, she would have left her coat in the luggage rack beyond Newport, where she alighted; without meaning to start an argument, it proved to me the intelligence of their average student. (They can't even read whether the bus says "City Centre" or "University", or "SPA1" or "18", for heaven's sake.) Into Cardiff we went (minus the girl and her coat of course), and I headed straight for The Pasty Shop to buy the traditional Ivo sausage roll... which they only had two of, and then one was small! Grrr! They (and a bacon bap) had to make do for the long trip into Pembrokeshire, a place I had only ever ventured into once before Saturday - and then at 3am, passing through it on the way back home from Ireland in 2006.

The 150 to Fishguard was relatively quiet. Slow out of Cardiff and on the Swansea avoiding line, the journey was otherwise unremarkable. The trolley guy was a good character to talk to; he mentioned the problems with using 150s on the route, the adventures of Michael Portillo, and also the effects of a certain strike (which caused the return journey to be quite busy). I actually lost my seat on the return trip to Carmarthen, which the service avoids on the outbound journey, to a photography session at Fishguard. The service is booked to arrive at 13:17; it arrived at 13:04. Whoops.

Later, I had a ~40 minute wait at Carmarthen, so I had a look around. And I have to say, it is beautiful. Forget anything people say about the station being inconveniently located; it is a 300 or so metre walk from the centre across a stunning steel bridge over the river. Sadly though, the town was a little too quiet, and I was fairly short on time, so an opportunity may well have been missed. Nonetheless, I returned to the little-used Platform 2 at Carmarthen for the 14:56 to Pembroke which to my horror was a 142! A 142 all the way to Pembroke and then back as far as Whitland! Argh! <(

By Pacer standards this was actually quite a nice journey, and did to an extent make me wonder what all the fuss was (bearing in mind I know all too well what their problems are). A quiet rural branch with mostly holiday traffic to Tenby (in February?) and little in the way of trouble. We actually started to run early beyond Tenby, which meant over 50 minutes in Pembroke Dock - which has essentially nothing there. (Apart from a dock anyway.) So I made up for the Carmarthen miss and bought something to eat.

Back on the Pacer, we were early into and late out of Tenby. We were there for over 15 minutes in all, so in theory I could have had a quick look there as well. Another miss down though, this relatively peaceful and almost tame day continued on to Whitland - where things would start to heat up (and not in a literal manner; neither because of the slight delay from Tenby which nearly made me miss the Milford service)...! Before that though, my thoughts had started to drift on to the subject of women. Yes, a train enthusiast really can have an interest in women :!:, but in this poor loser's case it can get a bit excessive (and cause depressive behaviour). Anyway, this time, whilst in the vicinity of Narberth, I had a strange thought that suggested that I would meet a nice lady on the train from Milford Haven...

The 175 to Milford Haven was heaving. Utterly heaving. The train was full of Swansea City fans celebrating their win over Leeds United in a Championship promotion six-pointer. They were singing, dancing, and downright rude, but it was only Whitland to Milford Haven, so not that far. Nonetheless, it became tedious and annoying, and by the time we reached the Principality's westernmost station I was fed up of it. My mood by this time was quite low, so it would need something special to lift it to the level it was in Fishguard - especially when you consider all the revellers heading to Swansea for the night! Out of Milford, I had the car to myself; by Whitland, drunks and potential drunks were literally everywhere.

However, suddenly, a certain small thought from the Narberth area came to the fore, when a lady sat immediately behind me. She got up to use the toilet, and owing to some points lost her balance and almost fell on to me! After she came back, we talked for a while, but that was it. She was off the train at Llanelli. The remainder of that journey was centered on the discussion of Swansea City's chances of promotion to the Premier League, and it looked like the day was over - but there was still the run back to Bath...

Into Platform 2 at Cardiff Central, with a seemingly failed pair of 175s on Platform 1, and there was no sign of the 158 home. It was due on 1, but ultimately changed to 2, and pulled in without trouble. I secured a table, and soon a man from Leeds (now living in Westbury) sat opposite me, and a lady from Caldicot - who had missed her 21:12 home and thus faced a walk from Severn Tunnel Junction - sat on the opposite table. And when we pulled out of Cardiff, she began to panic, thinking we were heading in the wrong direction. We weren't, but it took some considerable work to calm her. The three of us discussed various issues, again including Swansea vs Leeds, but her concerns remained. We eventually saw some works to the south, which eased her further, but it wasn't until I said we were about to enter a tunnel [that of Newport], which we shortly afterwards did do, that she was finally calm. But the train was slow - and this made her still feel a little edgy.

The lady and the Leeds man debated about all sorts, to the point that I asked if I was watching a soap opera. Apparently heartened by this, their talk became slightly less arrogant, but boy could she talk! The man even suggested that she was boring "a trainspotter on a train" [that's me in case you didn't realise] as a result of it. But finally, we pulled into Severn Tunnel Junction, and the lady stood up and bid us farewell. The man took her left hand and kissed her goodbye; she smiled. Then she quite literally kissed me! All that fear from as little as twelve days ago, seemingly vapourised in one instant, simply because I had comforted and assured her! And coupled with the events of roughly one hour previously, and also the thought of Narberth, and I felt much better. My mood hit a high, and we continued home, with a change to a 150 at Bristol.

And that was that. A train journey into the depths of Wales (having never been past Swansea), natural beauty spots, football hooliganism, and even my first proper kiss on the lips since the day before my 16th birthday, all in one day. And all while covering 480 miles and adding some considerable territory to my Route Coverage map! :D
 
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Sounds liek you had quite a day Ivo!

We saw the Fishguard train near Llanelli on Saturday as we were driving to the supermarket! Mrs G asked what train it was, so I checked the time and deduced it must have been for Fishguard! I should have waved!
 

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Oh dear... I didn't occur to me at the time that you were in Llanelli. It would have been 150245 at approximately 12:00 heading west, so quite easy to tell...

[delayed wave to the baron]
 

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Just read your trip report, sounds like quite a fun day out altogether!

Must admit, I'm confused about the problem you encountered in West Wales, mentioned here:

Ivo said:
I actually lost my seat on the return trip to Carmarthen, which the service avoids on the outbound journey, to a photography session at Fishguard. The service is booked to arrive at 13:!7; it arrived at 13:04. Whoops.

Maybe I'm just being a bit dozy at the moment, but if the train arrived 13 minutes early, where was the problem? :s

Glad to see you had a good day out in West Wales. Never heard of a 142 going to Pembroke Dock, that must have been quite a shock! I usually see a single 153 on the Pembroke Dock line, but that said it's been quite a while since I last went past Newport!
 

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Not so much a problem; more a case of showing how poorly timetabled some routes are. You have to wonder whether instances such as these count towards punctuality statistics! And if you want a really good idea, I had a walk around and did some photography, used the toilet and spoke to the catering assistant off the train - and I still got back on before we due in!
 

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Probably as it is a terminus perhaps?

I know the overnight 'boat' train can arrive early, it's probably as it is a terminus, the known rule of where it is given some ludicrous journey time from the penultimate station to the terminus to make up any loss time (what I call 'terminal slack') mainly for stat's reasons
 

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Why do ATW use something as unsuitable as a 150 on this long, express run? Can't they diagram a 158 or a 175 for it? The only times I've ever been to Fishguard (3 times, and always off the boat in the middle of the night) it's been onto an HST.

I'd been hoping for a 175 (still no HST but a lot better than a 150) because I'm planning to use this train from Carmarthen to Cardiff on 4th April, basically in order to grice the avoiding line at Landore (such a long way to go to tick off such a short stretch of line....). I'm then taking the WAG train north, but it's only an 11 minute connection. Is the Fishgaurd a reliable service, and is there plenty of slack built in from Llanelli?
 

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I'd been hoping for a 175 (still no HST but a lot better than a 150) because I'm planning to use this train from Carmarthen to Cardiff on 4th April, basically in order to grice the avoiding line at Landore (such a long way to go to tick off such a short stretch of line....). I'm then taking the WAG train north, but it's only an 11 minute connection. Is the Fishgaurd a reliable service, and is there plenty of slack built in from Llanelli?

If its the Landore Avoider you're after, you'll need to do it on a Saturday as its runs via the District during the week.
But yes it is reliable and very slack from Llanelli onwards. You'll be into Cardiff around 1550.
 

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If its the Landore Avoider you're after, you'll need to do it on a Saturday as its runs via the District during the week.
But yes it is reliable and very slack from Llanelli onwards. You'll be into Cardiff around 1550.

Even better! I require both but didn't realise the district was still in use. A few more miles of new track then!

Don't want to miss the WAG, so I'm glad it's reliable. I'll be off to Holyhead and then on the overnight boat to Dublin before heading to Belfast for a day of thumper bashing. I'm getting to Carmarthen on a £16 advance from Manchester via the Central Wales line :) Not a bad couple of days all in all.
 

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Sounds like rather nice little trip. Unfortunately Im on a late job that day so I wont be your Chauffeur for the Central or the Fishguard back working. Just for the record, the District has 4 daily passenger services routed over it, Mon-Sat. Probably my favourite route as I dont have to stop anywhere <D
 

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Sounds like rather nice little trip. Unfortunately Im on a late job that day so I wont be your Chauffeur for the Central or the Fishguard back working. Just for the record, the District has 4 daily passenger services routed over it, Mon-Sat. Probably my favourite route as I dont have to stop anywhere <D


I take it the 4 trains are all the Fishguards?

The only bummer about my trip is having to get the 05:32 from Bradford Interchange to Manchester in order to get the 07:30 ATW to Shrewsbury for the Central Wales. Given that this means a 4:30 departure from my house if I were to walk, I'll have to shell out for a taxi :(
 

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No, its just the Day Fishguard and its return working. The others are 0504 Carmarthen - Manchester and the 1959 ex Cardiff to Milford Haven
 

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The Night Fishguard just runs from Swansea to Fishguard and Back, doesnt travel East of Swansea.
 

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The Night Fishguard just runs from Swansea to Fishguard and Back, doesnt travel East of Swansea.

Apart from Saturday nights I believe it carries on to Cardiff as the 0358 SWA - PADD is non existent, I saw it in the timetable, though was booked for a seasonal replacement bus all or part of the way (Forget now)

The night turn I believe is booked for either a 150 or 153, and works off the Pembroke before forming the Fishguard. It has no time to fill up the water tanks so the toilets may be taped out, as I found out last month when a sole Class 153 was on the turn and we have to use the loo's at Fishguard :lol:

I don't know if the tanks are filled at Swansea when it comes back, I'd hope so as it forms a Heart of Wales service after!
 

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The 0358 SWA PAD does run weekdays. I worked the night Fishguard three times last week and it was formed of 2x 153s (booked, short term diagramming) and was a single 150 on the friday. It does indeed get its water tanks filled at Swansea on its arrival from Fishguard.
 

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So the night Fishguards take the Landore avoider?

The day Fishguard is booked via the Swansea district in both directions. If there is an engineering block on the district the train travels by the back curve at Landore. You have to know when the engineering is going to take place as this does not make any difference to the stops.
 

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There are sometimes 142's on the Pemborke Dock runs; one week last year they were on every day for a week (I think it was April or May!). Mrs G says she saw one on Tuesday as well, but I'm not convinced she knows the difference between a Pacer and a Sprinter!

I have caught the day Fishguard from Cardiff to llanelli, and from Llanelli to Fishguard and Carmarthen. One ach occasion it has been a 158 with a trolley service, maybe I was just lucky to avoid a 150!

I have never known the night Fishguard be anything but a 153 or 150. Long gone are the days of a HST with a full buffet service providing plenty of alcohol to weary travellers!
 

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It's always a 150 or 153 as it forms the 0436 Swansea - Shrewsbury later and the Shrewsbury crew (who take over at Llandod) dont sign Pacers. And there was indeed a 143 working the Dock - Swansea circuit last week.

The day Fishguard can have pretty much anything allocated to it, depending on what canton have available. I took a 175 down there before Christmas. It is diagrammed for a 150 though.
 
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I have never known the night Fishguard be anything but a 153 or 150. Long gone are the days of a HST with a full buffet service providing plenty of alcohol to weary travellers!

Back in my day of South/West Welsh bashing, it was almost always a 158. I did on one occasion see a 143 on the daytime Swansea to Fishguard, but I got off it at Carmarthen. Still regret not getting Fishguard for 143! I had 150281 on the night Fishguard from Swansea to the port and back, not wanting that again. Had a stormer of a headache that night, whether caused or just aggrevated by the 150 I don't know, but that 150 has always been in my bad books since!

Usually only see a 150 on the Fishguards in the day when I see them, but that is an unusual occurance for me these days. It does seem to be a bit of a spin 'n' win sometimes on the day Fishguards! Must admit, I wouldn't mind getting Fishguard for 175 (but then I'm biased, I'm trying to get all of their regular network cleared for both /0 and /1 sub-classes, the joys of being a 175 man!), although of course I'm most proud of having had 37419 and 425, as well as 50049, to the port! <D
 

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Correct, I did the Fishguard 50 in August 2006. Sadly came back on a Sunday, so had to put up with a farce or three on the return and no 50.

T'was indeed normally a 37 before that, and 425 must be the most regular 37 ever at Fishguard! :lol:
 

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The 0358 SWA PAD does run weekdays. I worked the night Fishguard three times last week and it was formed of 2x 153s (booked, short term diagramming) and was a single 150 on the friday. It does indeed get its water tanks filled at Swansea on its arrival from Fishguard.

Sorry I wrote that wrong!

I meant I believe ON Saturday nights (not apart from) it runs to Cardiff, as I believe the 0358 is a SuX run?
 

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Ah right, yeah it extends to Cardiff on Saturday nights. (ran ECS to Canton in previous timetables)
If it runs that is. Its quite often a replacement bus service from Carmarthen.
 
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