Closed/Under Threat Stations Watchlist

[SargeNpton]

Pilning is in the same situation as Polesworth - no footbridge - so perhaps that should be mentioned.

Is Pilning used for potential evacuations of the Severn Tunnel? That may be the only thing keeping it open.

 

[Sealink]

Is it weird that the stations in the list above have a skeleton -or no- service, while in Scotland at request stops like Altnabreac and Scotscalder they are installing tech to assist passengers and operations...

Further request-stop kiosks added on Far North Line

scotlandsrailway.com

 

[zwk500]

Is it weird that the stations in the list above have a skeleton -or no- service, while in Scotland at request stops like Altnabreac and Scotscalder they are installing tech to assist passengers and operations...

Because of the remoteness of the far North of Scotland, the line serves a much greater social purpose than other stations in more heavily populated areas where non-driving alternatives like lifts or taxis are more viable. The line, despite it's sparse service, will not be closed unless there is a monumental shift in Scottish politics.
In this context, the investment in tech that help both the passenger flag down a request stop and the railway operate the stops more efficiently is a sensible investment. It's different to stations like Denton, where the trains can't sensibly serve the transport demand and the trams and buses offer decent alternatives into central Manchester.

 

[Sealink]

Because of the remoteness of the far North of Scotland, the line serves a much greater social purpose than other stations in more heavily populated areas where non-driving alternatives like lifts or taxis are more viable. The line, despite it's sparse service, will not be closed unless there is a monumental shift in Scottish politics.
In this context, the investment in tech that help both the passenger flag down a request stop and the railway operate the stops more efficiently is a sensible investment. It's different to stations like Denton, where the trains can't sensibly serve the transport demand and the trams and buses offer decent alternatives into central Manchester.

I agree, mostly

But then stations like Brigg could surely support a better service? I fear I may be going down a rabbit hole, and it's not to take away from your excellent points.

 

[zwk500]

I agree, mostly

But then stations like Brigg could surely support a better service? I fear I may be going down a rabbit hole, and it's not to take away from your excellent points.

Brigg could almost certainly support a better service. I don't live in the area so don't know it well but I think this is a frustrating case of railway expediency trumping passenger need. Gainsborough, Kirton Lindsey and Brigg are not big towns but they are not sleepy villages either, and a regular 1tph service (or at least a weekday peak-time) from Grimsby to Gainsborough Central or even Retford would seem to be sensible there.

However I don't know what the actual travel patterns are around there (e.g. if Lincoln or Scunthorpe are more prominent destinations then the train won't compete well against the bus).

 

[The exile]

On the Brigg line, Gainsborough Central could also be at risk.

Have I missed something or why is Gainsborough C more at risk than the other stations on that line?

 

[zwk500]

Have I missed something or why is Gainsborough C more at risk than the other stations on that line?

I'd say all 3 stations on the line are at equal risk. Either the line stays as one or it goes as one. The saving would be in getting rid of the junctions simplifying the operating pattern.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Have I missed something or why is Gainsborough C more at risk than the other stations on that line?

Not sure it's necessarily more at risk, but it seemingly was omitted from the OP's original list in post #1, whereas Kirton Lindsey and Brigg were included.

 

[Sealink]

Gainsborough Central does have an hourly service to Sheffield via Retford.

 

[Old Yard Dog]

And it is in the town centre unlike Lea Road which is inconveniently situated a mile or so out of town with only an hourly daytime-only bus service.

 

[willgreen]

Gainsborough Central does have an hourly service to Sheffield via Retford.

Didn't this get cut after COVID? Or has it been restored

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Gainsborough Central does have an hourly service to Sheffield via Retford.

Didn't this get cut after COVID? Or has it been restored

Can only see the four Gainsborough Central -> Sheffield services today.

Seven tomorrow (Saturday) from Gainsborough Central -> Sheffield of which three start rom Cleethorpes but then nothing at all on Sunday.

Not exactly a 'Metro' frequency, but still somewhat better than it has been of recent.

 

[willgreen]

Can only see the four Gainsborough Central -> Sheffield services today.

Seven tomorrow (Saturday) from Gainsborough Central -> Sheffield of which three start rom Cleethorpes but then nothing at all on Sunday.

Not exactly a 'Metro' frequency, but still somewhat better than it has been of recent.

Ah fair enough, that is better than I expected

 

[Hornet]

I'm starting to wonder if it has actually been formally closed

My research regards Weymouth Quay. (Excuse Caps as it's how I list all My Station History Reserch Data on my Excel Spreadsheet).

"WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION CLOSURE HISTORY.
26th SEPTEMBER 1987 WAS THE DATE OF THE LAST REGULAR SCHEDULED PASSENGER SERVICE.
THE LAST TRAIN WAS A 'ONE OFF' CHARTER SERVICE WHICH RAN ON THE 2nd MAY 1999.
NETWORK RAIL DESIGNATED THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AS "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" FOR A
PERIOD OF 2 YEARS AS FROM 15th JANUARY 2007.
FROM 18th FEBRUARY 2007 TO THE 17th FEBRUARY 2009 NETWORK RAIL HAVE IMPOSED A SHORT-TERM
NETWORK CHANGE TO THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY. THE STRETCH OF TRAMWAY TO BE CLOSED TEMPORARILY
FOR THE 2 YEAR PERIOD IS FROM MELCOMBE REGIS LEVEL CROSSING TO WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION .
A FURTHER 2 YEAR "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" PERIOD STARTED FROM THE 1st APRIL 2009.
NETWORK RAIL PROPOSED THE CLOSURE OF WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY IN 2013.
THE WEYMOUTH AND PORTLAND BOROUGH COUNCIL’S MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AGREED A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT, IN PRINCIPLE,
NETWORK RAIL IN PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE, ALLOWING NETWORK RAIL
TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE.
ON THE 2nd FEBRUARY 2016, DORSET COUNCIL MET AND AGREED ON A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT PUTTING THE DISUSED
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE AND INFORMED NETWORK RAIL OF THAT.
NETWORK RAIL HAS INDICATED IT'S INTENTION TO START THE PROCESS OF PROGRESSING TO PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE STATUS
FROM THE DATE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
NETWORK RAIL ISSUED A PERMANENT ‘OUT OF USE’ NOTICE 12th APRIL 2016.
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AND STATION WAS NEVER OFFICIALLY CLOSED, BUT PERMISSION WAS GRANTED TO AVOID IT.
(SEE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION E-MAILS). DUE TO THE FACT THAT
NETWORK RAIL TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP TO DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL AND THAT THE QUAY LINE HAD NOT BEEN USED FOR MANY YEARS.
A CLOSURE NOTICE WAS NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE RULES OF THE 2005 RAILWAY ACT."

As I say my research.

 

[zwk500]

Cracking piece of research. So it can be taken that 'formal' closure of the tramway and therefore Weymouth Quay took place with the network change to Permanently Out of Use in 2016. This lines up with NESA, which shows a small stub of the quay branch still remains but marked 'Permanently Out of Use', and does not say it continues to any other network or terminal.

 

[Ashley Hill]

Is Pilning used for potential evacuations of the Severn Tunnel? That may be the only thing keeping it open.

That is correct. It also has a couple of regulars who often use it on Saturdays.

 

[Baxenden Bank]

My research regards Weymouth Quay. (Excuse Caps as it's how I list all My Station History Reserch Data on my Excel Spreadsheet).

"WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION CLOSURE HISTORY.
26th SEPTEMBER 1987 WAS THE DATE OF THE LAST REGULAR SCHEDULED PASSENGER SERVICE.
THE LAST TRAIN WAS A 'ONE OFF' CHARTER SERVICE WHICH RAN ON THE 2nd MAY 1999.
NETWORK RAIL DESIGNATED THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AS "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" FOR A
PERIOD OF 2 YEARS AS FROM 15th JANUARY 2007.
FROM 18th FEBRUARY 2007 TO THE 17th FEBRUARY 2009 NETWORK RAIL HAVE IMPOSED A SHORT-TERM
NETWORK CHANGE TO THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY. THE STRETCH OF TRAMWAY TO BE CLOSED TEMPORARILY
FOR THE 2 YEAR PERIOD IS FROM MELCOMBE REGIS LEVEL CROSSING TO WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION .
A FURTHER 2 YEAR "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" PERIOD STARTED FROM THE 1st APRIL 2009.
NETWORK RAIL PROPOSED THE CLOSURE OF WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY IN 2013.
THE WEYMOUTH AND PORTLAND BOROUGH COUNCIL’S MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AGREED A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT, IN PRINCIPLE,
NETWORK RAIL IN PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE, ALLOWING NETWORK RAIL
TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE.
ON THE 2nd FEBRUARY 2016, DORSET COUNCIL MET AND AGREED ON A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT PUTTING THE DISUSED
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE AND INFORMED NETWORK RAIL OF THAT.
NETWORK RAIL HAS INDICATED IT'S INTENTION TO START THE PROCESS OF PROGRESSING TO PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE STATUS
FROM THE DATE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
NETWORK RAIL ISSUED A PERMANENT ‘OUT OF USE’ NOTICE 12th APRIL 2016.
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AND STATION WAS NEVER OFFICIALLY CLOSED, BUT PERMISSION WAS GRANTED TO AVOID IT.
(SEE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION E-MAILS). DUE TO THE FACT THAT
NETWORK RAIL TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP TO DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL AND THAT THE QUAY LINE HAD NOT BEEN USED FOR MANY YEARS.
A CLOSURE NOTICE WAS NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE RULES OF THE 2005 RAILWAY ACT."

As I say my research.

Well, I can't afford a lawyer so shall assume that the procedure described in the last line is 'proper'. Thank you.
As an aside I just learnt how to automatically change upper case to lower case in Excel! In a blank cell type '=lower(cell reference)' eg =lower(a1). The cell reference being where the text to be converted is. Job done!

 

[LowLevel]

I don't think Peartree is at threat. It has a number of regular users. They don't all buy tickets to/from Peartree though.

 

[Sealink]

My research regards Weymouth Quay. (Excuse Caps as it's how I list all My Station History Reserch Data on my Excel Spreadsheet).

"WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION CLOSURE HISTORY.
26th SEPTEMBER 1987 WAS THE DATE OF THE LAST REGULAR SCHEDULED PASSENGER SERVICE.
THE LAST TRAIN WAS A 'ONE OFF' CHARTER SERVICE WHICH RAN ON THE 2nd MAY 1999.
NETWORK RAIL DESIGNATED THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AS "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" FOR A
PERIOD OF 2 YEARS AS FROM 15th JANUARY 2007.
FROM 18th FEBRUARY 2007 TO THE 17th FEBRUARY 2009 NETWORK RAIL HAVE IMPOSED A SHORT-TERM
NETWORK CHANGE TO THE WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY. THE STRETCH OF TRAMWAY TO BE CLOSED TEMPORARILY
FOR THE 2 YEAR PERIOD IS FROM MELCOMBE REGIS LEVEL CROSSING TO WEYMOUTH QUAY STATION .
A FURTHER 2 YEAR "OUT OF USE (TEMPORARY)" PERIOD STARTED FROM THE 1st APRIL 2009.
NETWORK RAIL PROPOSED THE CLOSURE OF WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY IN 2013.
THE WEYMOUTH AND PORTLAND BOROUGH COUNCIL’S MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AGREED A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT, IN PRINCIPLE,
NETWORK RAIL IN PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE, ALLOWING NETWORK RAIL
TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE DISUSED WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE.
ON THE 2nd FEBRUARY 2016, DORSET COUNCIL MET AND AGREED ON A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT PUTTING THE DISUSED
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE AND INFORMED NETWORK RAIL OF THAT.
NETWORK RAIL HAS INDICATED IT'S INTENTION TO START THE PROCESS OF PROGRESSING TO PERMANENTLY OUT OF USE STATUS
FROM THE DATE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
NETWORK RAIL ISSUED A PERMANENT ‘OUT OF USE’ NOTICE 12th APRIL 2016.
WEYMOUTH QUAY TRAMWAY AND STATION WAS NEVER OFFICIALLY CLOSED, BUT PERMISSION WAS GRANTED TO AVOID IT.
(SEE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION E-MAILS). DUE TO THE FACT THAT
NETWORK RAIL TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP TO DORSET COUNTY COUNCIL AND THAT THE QUAY LINE HAD NOT BEEN USED FOR MANY YEARS.
A CLOSURE NOTICE WAS NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE RULES OF THE 2005 RAILWAY ACT."

As I say my research.

I live near Weymouth. They have lifted the rail lines to the quay.

Funnily,the signal from the quay is still there, at permanent red.

Didn't this get cut after COVID? Or has it been restored

I checked Rail Time Trains and it was operating today

 

[70014IronDuke]

Too kind! I am not against E-W. Far from it. I just don't believe that the local service has to be removed to accommodate it. I think both are possible.

Me neither. I agree 100%. Or perhaps I would put it: both should be made possible.

 

[flitwickbeds]

Added Brandon to the master list in post #1 - one platform closed due to old station building at risk of collapse.

 

[philthetube]

Don't think Berney arms is at risk, costs nothing to serve and actually has quite decent (actual) passenger numbers. It is probably in a similar situation to Peartree, mentioned above). Many walkers who continue to Norwich or Acle, I suspect that if that one was ever proposed walking and nature groups would have a lot to say and would probably do passenger surveys to check official numbers.

 

[zwk500]

Don't think Berney arms is at risk, costs nothing to serve and actually has quite decent (actual) passenger numbers. It is probably in a similar situation to Peartree, mentioned above). Many walkers who continue to Norwich or Acle, I suspect that if that one was ever proposed walking and nature groups would have a lot to say and would probably do passenger surveys to check official numbers.

Berney Arms wouldn't close unless the Reedham-Yarmouth link was also closed. Politically, I can't see that happening.

 

[Elecman]

What industry closed at Salwick? The Nuclear facility is still open !!

 

[GRALISTAIR]

What industry closed at Salwick? The Nuclear facility is still open !!

Correct. The freight spur was removed when the line was electrified but the nuclear facility is still open. However, I have a lifelong friend on Fylde Borough Council and he tells me this station will probably close if/when Cottam station gets built/open.

 

[Elecman]

Correct. The freight spur was removed when the line was electrified but the nuclear facility is still open. However, I have a lifelong friend on Fylde Borough Council and he tells me this station will probably close if/when Cottam station gets built/open.

That is very likely

 

[WibbleWobble]

Funnily,the signal from the quay is still there, at permanent red.

Here is the photographic evidence to prove it - taken by myself yesterday (after finally managing to get there!).

Weirdly, the disused track has been left in two small sections - one crossing the access road to the retail park, roughly where I was stood, and also a short section on the dead-end stump of Commercial Road immediately north of the bus depot.

The stretch in between (at the side of B&Q) has been turned into a shared footpath / cycleway, although one of the rails has been set into the asphalt.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Polesworth is noted as one way only because of a lack of bridge, but Pilning, listed immediately above it, is not so noted although I understand it is in the same situation.

 

[InkyScrolls]

Wennington has fully reopened, as I'm sure both its frequent users will be pleased to hear.

 

[Llandudno]

Should TfW stations between Upton and Wrexham Central (excluding Shotton and Wrexham General) be added to the list as TfW seem hell bent on downgrading the Borderlands line with no sign of train services being resumed anytime soon…