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Town twinning has been mentioned in passing on these forums before, for example in this long-running thread on settlement association: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/settlement-association.54265/. I don't think there's been a dedicated thread on it before, though.

I have often wondered what criteria they use when choosing twin towns and cities. I would guess that it is usually somewhere that has something in common with the town in question, for example you would expect an industrial town or city to be twinned with another industrial town or city, a spa town with a spa town, a seaside town with a seaside town, and so on.

I believe that in some cases there is some kind of historic link between the two towns, and according to the Wikipedia entry on sister cities it is also sometimes done according to which letters the two towns begin with. For example Spalding, Lincolnshire, is twinned with Speyer, Germany, presumably because they both begin with SP. There are also some places that are twinned with their namesake or almost namesake in another country; for example Richmond, London, is twinned with Richmond, Virginia, USA.

Sadly, some towns have severed their links with their twin towns in recent years, I think partly because of pressure on council budgets and, at least where twinning between mainland European and UK towns is concerned, because of Brexit. Some places are still making a really good effort to keep up their twinning links, though.

Can anyone think of any examples of twin towns that don't have any obvious link, or anywhere that you think would make a good twin town for somewhere that isn't currently twinned with anywhere (or doesn't have a twin town in that particular country)?

Matlock, Derbyshire, is twinned with Eaubonne, France. This would seem a bit of an odd choice, as Eaubonne is a suburb of Paris whereas Matlock is a smallish country town. Eau means water in French, though, which would suggest that it is or was a spa town, as is Matlock's neighbouring town of Matlock Bath.

I would suggest that Bad Schandau in eastern Germany, close to the Czech border, would make a good German twin town for Matlock as it's also a spa town and looks very similar to Matlock Bath (and has a heritage tramway, the Kirnitzschtalbahn, just as Matlock has Crich Tramway Village just a few miles away).

Although Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, is already twinned with Heiligenhaus, Germany (which is also twinned with Basildon, Essex), it surely ought also to be twinned with its quasi-namesake in Germany, Mansfeld. See also this thread on UK places with a namesake or almost namesake in mainland Europe: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...ounding-place-name-in-mainland-europe.203703/

There are even some villages that have twin villages. For example Manorbier, on the Pembrokeshire coast in south Wales, is twinned with Vernou-la-Celle-sur-Seine, France. Does anyone know of any other examples of twin villages?
 
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There are even some villages that have twin villages. For example Manorbier, on the Pembrokeshire coast in south Wales, is twinned with Vernou-la-Celle-sur-Seine, France. Does anyone know of any other examples of twin villages?
Dull, Scotland and Boring, Oregon.
 

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Sadly, some towns have severed their links with their twin towns in recent years, I think partly because of pressure on council budgets and, at least where twinning between mainland European and UK towns is concerned, because of Brexit. Some places are still making a really good effort to keep up their twinning links, though.
That does seem mean-minded, petty and bowing to reactionary attitudes.

Given that twinning exists with towns outside the EU or even the European continent (three examples: Bournemouth with Lucerne, Switzerland; Christchurch, Dorset and Christchurch, NZ; Andover, Hampshire and Andover, Massachusetts) it seems utterly ridiculous to sever ties with towns just because they are in the EU.
 

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Have often wondered whether the key criterion to be decided was whether the twinned town was likely to be worthwhile visiting by councillors on a week's "jolly". :rolleyes:
 

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Post Brexit, the twinning of towns is even more important.

Growing up, my home town of Ashford had signs pronouncing its twinning with Forgeres and Badmunstreifle (apologies if the spelling is wrong - I feel quite pleased to still remember the names a quarter of a century after having lived there).

Keep the twinnings going. There was some talk of Ashford twinning with somewhere in America (associated with Mitt Romney and his links to the Romney Marsh, but nothing came of it).
 

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In 1988, visitors to Slough were greeted by this sign:

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Image description - road sign for Slough with smaller sign immediately below stating "Twinned with Chernobyl"
 

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Dull, Scotland and Boring, Oregon.
That one made me chuckle the first time I found out about it. I was actually driving through Dull while on holiday and I spotted the signs saying that it was twinned with Boring!

The two towns closest to where I live are twinned with Hersbruck (Lossiemouth) and Landshut (Elgin), both of which are in Bavaria. I'm not entirely sure why, but the connections have existed for a while. Elgin has a bridge called the Landshut Bridge, apparently (I only found this out when I looked it up on Wikipedia - usual caveats apply).
 

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Dull, Scotland and Boring, Oregon.
That one made me chuckle the first time I found out about it. I was actually driving through Dull while on holiday and I spotted the signs saying that it was twinned with Boring!
Both of which are twinned with Bland Shire in New South Wales, Australia; all are part of the Leauge of Extraordinary Communities.
 
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Bridgnorth just up the road from me is twinned with 2 German towns!
I think Cheltenham can beat that. It has a whole family of them…… :lol:
 

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Post Brexit, the twinning of towns is even more important.

Growing up, my home town of Ashford had signs pronouncing its twinning with Forgeres and Badmunstreifle (apologies if the spelling is wrong - I feel quite pleased to still remember the names a quarter of a century after having lived there).

Keep the twinnings going. There was some talk of Ashford twinning with somewhere in America (associated with Mitt Romney and his links to the Romney Marsh, but nothing came of it).
That explains a lot. Bad Munstereiful Road is a regular feature in the county traffic reports - jams, road configurations, planning applications (leading to roadworks and potential queues - it was some fast food outlet I think), I hadn't twigged that it was a place and the link was twinning. Actually Bad Munstereiful is twinned with Fougeres so should it be tripletting? (Fougeres also has a road named after it, shorter, only significant because John Lewis was just off of it.)
 

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That explains a lot. Bad Munstereiful Road is a regular feature in the county traffic reports - jams, road configurations, planning applications (leading to roadworks and potential queues - it was some fast food outlet I think), I hadn't twigged that it was a place and the link was twinning. Actually Bad Munstereiful is twinned with Fougeres so should it be tripletting? (Fougeres also has a road named after it, shorter, only significant because John Lewis was just off of it.)

The roads around that way have become much busier since I lived there.
 

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Town twinning has been mentioned in passing on these forums before, for example in this long-running thread on settlement association: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/settlement-association.54265/. I don't think there's been a dedicated thread on it before, though.
Being pedantic: the above-linked-to is a quiz-type game, rather than a "straight" thread -- a player mentions something about a settlement somewhere in the British Isles; the following player mentions something else about it, which also calls up an association or trait re another settlement in the British Isles. I frequently take part in this game, and find "twinnings" a useful stand-by in it.

I have often wondered what criteria they use when choosing twin towns and cities. I would guess that it is usually somewhere that has something in common with the town in question, for example you would expect an industrial town or city to be twinned with another industrial town or city, a spa town with a spa town, a seaside town with a seaside town, and so on.
I'm often struck by the seeming lack of anything obvious which the two communities have in common (see below).

... according to the Wikipedia entry on sister cities it is also sometimes done according to which letters the two towns begin with. For example Spalding, Lincolnshire, is twinned with Speyer, Germany, presumably because they both begin with SP.
My personal feeling is that this seems a rather bonkers way of choosing a "twin" settlement; but maybe Wiki knows what it's talking about here -- and it is anyway, a resemblance of some kind...

Can anyone think of any examples of twin towns that don't have any obvious link, or anywhere that you think would make a good twin town for somewhere that isn't currently twinned with anywhere (or doesn't have a twin town in that particular country)?
A particular feature that seems odd to me: is how often a coastal settlement, is twinned with an inland one -- including between countries which have plenty of seacoast. (Germany might "get a pass" here -- since 1945, it hasn't had a huge amount of that commodity, even counting both North and Baltic Seas -- but there are strangenesses a propos same, even so.) As in @GusB 's post (Post #12 -- I seem to have lost the quote which I thought I'd made): Lossiemouth is twinned with a town in Bavaria -- as far from the sea, as one can get in Germany. And Campbeltown is twinned with Kuemmersbruck, also in Bavaria. Fraserburgh is twinned with Bressuire, definitely inland in mid-west France. Simlilarly Whitstable with Borken (obscure, at least to me, town in inland North-Rhine-Westphalia, on the Dutch border). And as per @Whistler40145's Post #17 (again, thought I'd quoted it; am a fool with the quoting mechanism on this site: anything which can go wrong therewith for me, will do so) -- Blackpool's twinning with also little-known Bottrop, in the same part of Germany. Anstruther is twinned with Bapaume: the latter an inland and seemingly dismal joint in the far north of France, about which I knew only that it had a terrible time in World War I (and more of the same in ditto II) -- but I've found that Bapaume is actually a place with lots of way-back history -- apparently Anstruther too, has that trait -- this perhaps a more sense-making twinning, than it had appeared.

More of the "coastal / inland" thing, with Kidderminster and Bewdley -- pretty much as distant from the sea, as one can get in Great Britain. "Kiddy" 's twin, though, is the North Sea fishing port of Husum; Bewdley's is Fort-Mahon-Plage, on France's Channel coast.

In fairness: some twinnings do seem thoroughly appropriate. There's Chichester / Chartres: both small countryside-surrounded cities with very impressive cathedrals. Likewise Coventry / Dresden: seeking to heal wounds of war, with each a victim of devastating bombing by the other side. And Harrogate / Bagneres-de-Luchon: both fair-sized and prominent spa towns in pleasant surroundings. Plus Sandgate, Kent (near Hythe): with Sangatte, just on the other side of the Channel -- what pairing could be more suitable? York is twinned with Muenster, again in North-Rhine-Westphalia: a fine and historic cathedral city (and York's French twin is Dijon). In the "facetious" department -- the twinning of Walsall with Mulhouse would seem (all due respect to the good citizens of Walsall) to make the French city largely, the loser in the deal. For the likes of us people, a York / Mulhouse twinning would be agreeable -- sites of the respective countries' national railway museums...

There are even some villages that have twin villages. For example Manorbier, on the Pembrokeshire coast in south Wales, is twinned with Vernou-la-Celle-sur-Seine, France. Does anyone know of any other examples of twin villages?
I recently discovered: Long Wittenham (Oxfordshire) is twinned with Thaon (Calvados departement, Normandy).

Have often wondered whether the key criterion to be decided was whether the twinned town was likely to be worthwhile visiting by councillors on a week's "jolly". :rolleyes:
That's indeed, an element in this business... I have a friend who tends to extremes of vehement opinions about various matters; he is so convinced that the whole town-twinning thing, is nothing but a racket centred on this stuff: that one simply dares not mention to him in conversation, the "twinning" subject -- if mentioned, it sets off a long tirade of apocalyptic fury verging on "could only be wiped out by copious bloodshed..." -- I'm inclined to reckon that it needn't be a "zero-sum" matter: the corruption among municipal types concerned, can co-exist with the envisaged beneficent purposes -- furthering friendship and international understanding and acceptance -- being genuinely there and taking place.

On a thoroughly silly note: the weirdest- and most-incongruous-seeming twinning which has come to my notice to date, is that between Haworth (West Yorkshire) and Macchu Picchu (Peru). Perhaps this apparent oddity is connected with relatively few people's having heard of the South American settlement's Bronteio Sisters -- Carlotta, Emilia and Anna -- who wrote powerful and dramatic novels of various passions running high; their having written in the local Quechua language, contributing to their being less well-known than might otherwise be the case :smile: ...
 
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Similarly Whitstable with Borken (obscure, at least to me, town in inland North-Rhine-Westphalia, on the Dutch border).
Whitstable is twinnned with places in the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, former East Germany and Sweden in addition. The Twinning Association appears to be fiercely independent of the local council (the reason why I wanted to check it was still in existence is consecutive council leaders have dismissed twinning and done nothing to support it.)

An interesting response on the Twinning Association website:
  • Are the other twin towns like Whitstable?​


    Definitely not. They are mostly completely the opposite. It’s more interesting when the towns are different because people are so alike.
However the reason that I think the arrangement in #5 is excellent is that both have links to mining and that must give more than a few a special bond.

In the "facetious" department -- the twinning of Walsall with Mulhouse would seem (all due respect to the good citizens of Walsall) to make the French city largely, the loser in the deal.
That arrangement is 70 years old this year. It may be that there wasn't a great deal of choice at the time. And until 2008, visitors could come over to see the illuminations which I, for one, thought were pretty special (mind you I last visited in the last century - when there were queues).
 

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There are even some villages that have twin villages. For example Manorbier, on the Pembrokeshire coast in south Wales, is twinned with Vernou-la-Celle-sur-Seine, France. Does anyone know of any other examples of twin villages?
In East Sussex, the village of Northiam is twinned with Calonne-sur-la-Lys, France, and Hurst Green is twinned with Ellerhoop, Germany. The former is known for being the birthplace of humanist Robert Gaguin and the latter for its arboretum, some of which is open to the public but is mostly used for research and study.
 

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Our town is twinned with a counterpart in France. The criteria were (according to the twinning association) the approximate sizes of the settlements being similar, and being able to get there in a reasonable day's travel via the Poole-Cherbourg Ferry. We are in the New Forest, and our twin is in Normandy.
 

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When I moved to my now hometown back in the early 1970’s there was quite a bit of interaction between my hometown and its twin in the USA. Nowadays apart from a road name and ‘Twinned with’ sign you would never know twinning existed. All totally pointless.
 

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Whitstable is twinnned with places in the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, former East Germany and Sweden in addition. The Twinning Association appears to be fiercely independent of the local council (the reason why I wanted to check it was still in existence is consecutive council leaders have dismissed twinning and done nothing to support it.)

An interesting response on the Twinning Association website:

[viz. "Are the other twin towns like Whitstable?" "Definitely not. They are mostly completely the opposite. It's more interesting when the towns are different, because people are so alike."]

My immediate thought was, "that's contrarian, if you like"; however, it's reckoned good for people, for them to be prompted to "think outside their box" !
 

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My immediate thought was, "that's contrarian, if you like"; however, it's reckoned good for people, for them to be prompted to "think outside their box" !
If this case I think that the Twinning Association is independent of the council may be the reason for this intended diversion from the expected. It is run by volunteers so presumably this is what they want. From the same source
On certain occasions the Mayor of Canterbury will be invited to attend
The Association makes the decision to invite, not the authority. They are an independent bunch in the 'bubble'.

If it is left to a council, it might just be that the council leader thought twinning was 'a good thing' (perhaps to divert attention from something that had gone wrong) and happened to bump into the mayor of some European town they could actually pronounce, or some sounder reason (that described by @adc82140 in #21 seems entirely sensible. I've looked at the twinning newsletter for Borken, it mentions under 11 football matches against one of the other town teams, the Whitstable one mentions scout groups visiting those of a partner town. I would have thought those involved would learn more than two weeks in Torremolinos, and might even make long term friends.

I don't know, but wonder twinning became popular in the 50s and 60s as a result of the World Wars. Helpful if we understand our neighbours, not just our neighbours' leaders.
 

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Ely is twinned with Ribe, Denmark.

There's a rather good website (if a little out-of-date) that explains why and how:

http://www.elyribe-tapestry.co.uk/history/
...we celebrate the very special relationship between Ely and its twin town of Ribe in Denmark, with the 50th anniversary of the twinning that was initiated in September 1956.

Perhaps the history behind that first meeting is a little sketchy, but we know that the then British Ambassador in Copenhagen, Sir Eric Berthoud, lent his support to ties being established between two towns which he thought had great similarities - not just the imposing cathedrals and the historical buildings that surround them, but also the agricultural hinterland.
 

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Sheffield is twinned with Donetsk in Ukraine, there is a road called Donetsk Way which runs near Crystal Peaks shopping centre in the south of the city.
 

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Our town (photogenic Yorkshire market town) is twinned with an outer suburb of Paris. I’ve lived here 25 years and never heard of the twinning actually leading to something.

Leeds is twinned with Dortmund and Lille - similar sized industrial cities however the main difference is that Borussia Dortmund and OSC Lille are successful football clubs.
 

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From 1987 we lived in Loosley Row in Buckinghamshire, a couple of miles from Princes Risborough. Loosley Row is a a hamlet strung out along a hillside, and at the top of the hill is Lacey Green, a larger village, which was twinned with Hambye in Normandy. The twinning had been arranged a few years earlier when inhabitants of Lacey Green and Loosley Row, through the Parish Council, expressed interest in setting up a a twinning arrangement. Exploratory visits were made to a number of places in France (and possibly elsewhere, but I'm not sure), and Hambye was the place with several similarities and people that the English representatives got on with. It had the advantage of reasonably good transport links via Cherbourg, so you could make the journey in a day.

Regular activities included an annual official visit, the French to England one year and the English to France the next, staying in people's homes. There were similar children's visits each year, in the opposite direction. The hosts always arranged local trips and activities of various kinds. English representatives were invited to various special occasions in Hambye, for example the fiftieth anniversary of their liberation in 1944.

A major difference, in my view, between a village twinning and that of a large town is that a village twinning derives from a desire by local people to establish and run such a link, while a town twinning is more likely to be a formal municipal affair in which councillors play a substantial role. This leads to the accusations about jollies for councillors. People in both places of our twinning greatly enjoyed the exchanges and learned a lot that they most probably would not have by any other means.

The drawback of a village twinning is that it depends on the interest and commitment, including fundraising, of people on both sides. As time went on, the original organisers moved away, acquired other commitments, got older, died, and weren't replaced by others with similar enthusiasms. Perhaps there was some sort of spirit in existence in the early 1980s which encouraged people to want to learn about the inhabitants of another country. At any rate, before we moved from that area to Hampshire in 2002 the twinning association had faded away.
 

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Living just outside Sandwich in Kent, I occasionally tell gullible friends and guests that the town is twinned with Baguette in France and with Pannini in Italy.
I wish I had the resources to create an appropriate twinning sign for April fools day.
 
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