nlogax
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TheSmiths82
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I don't watch GB News and have no intention to but I find it quite sinister when you look at who is funding it. I just wonder who their audience is, it is surely a shrinking demographic. It just seems to hate everything that is slightly progressive. That said the channel wasn't designed for my demographic.
nlogax
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I'd have no problem if GB News removed the 'News' part of their channel name. Maybe also the 'GB' bit as I'm fairly certain it doesn't represent anything beyond a vocal minority.
Call it 'Angry people yell at clouds TV' or something. Then you'd at least know what you're getting into before tuning in.
Except it’s nothing like that in reality, with the majority of the evening programmes being panel shows with guests presenting both sides of the argument.
DoubleLemon
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The times I have watched it they never give the "other" side a fair hearing. They shout over them, gang up on them and just behave like children. I must have missed it where it wasn't anything other than lip service to the other side of the argument.
DarloRich
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It is designed as a conduit to allow Tufton street types to raise crank right ideas and get them onto the national agenda.
Tufton Street > GB news > Twitter clip> Right wing "influencer" > hard of thinking regurgitation > Right wing media > Tory cranks > BBC/sensible media > twitter clip> repeat
TheSmiths82
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This is my major issue with it as well, it is the fact it has News in the title when it is not a news channel, otherwise all them Tory MPs would not be allowed to present it.
"Angry Gammon TV" would be a great name
bavvo
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"Gammon Broadcast News" ?
I couldn't resist
I couldn't resist
That's exactly what it is. And it has been surprisingly successful (given such low viewer numbers) in ensuring culture wars are now very much part of the Tory playbook, and forcing Rishi and others to focus on migrants, the war on the motorist, giving us all the freedom to enjoy oil and hate discussions on climate change.
And Calvin only yesterday lashed out at 'Conservatives in name only' relating to the Tories not fully onboard. It's almost identical to what's going on in MAGA world.
The channel doesn't need large numbers of viewers or even to make any money. It is funded to lead opinions and control narratives, and I expect the funding is plentiful as long as the channel keeps at it.
Edit: I also forgot that GB News also likes to dog whistle on loads of other issues, most notably things like trans rights, immigration and crime (implying certain cultures are more criminal than others) and so on. There's probably a little less said about Brexit now, as nobody can defend that anymore.
Dai Corner
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One has to wonder why there aren't equivalent left wing TV channels.
nlogax
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Ok..no. The GB News I've seen presents stories in a manner designed to rile up its base. Other news stories are presented from a right-wing perspective, fielding the occasional centre or left-leaning voice as nominated piñata for the segment in order to provide the bizarre artifice of 'balance'.
The owners need to **** or get off the pot. Choose to either present the news without political bias, or stop the pantomime of calling it a news channel and instead embrace the role of 24 hour rolling op-ed minus the bloody pretence.
Nendless to say left-wing broadcasters should do the same though who we would consider as left-wing would be a separate conversation. Such examples aren't so obvious, certainly to me.
That'd be just as bad with the likes of Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar and J'OB going on and on!
Gloster
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Because they would immediately start splintering into rival channels: Judean Peoples’ News, People of Judea’s News, News for Free Galilee, etc. (I am actually three-quarters serious: one group would be unhappy with the angle taken by the first channel to be started up and would create a new channel, and then both would devote their time to attacking each other.)
If you look at the relative circulations of left and right wing newspapers, if you think GB News struggles for viewers then a left wing version would need some really deep pockets to run.
There's also enough outlets for left wing content. Novara and Politics Joe comes to mind but I'm not sure if they'd would succeed as broadcast channels.
VauxhallandI
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I couldn’t agree with you more.
There are a lot of one eyed comments on here.
My glass house is better than yours..
Where would the money come from?
Much of the money for these right wing channels comes from very, very, very rich people living off shore who represent large corporations and business interests - which in turn leads to political parties that are heavily funded by the above.
The left would more likely rely on donations and support possibly from unions. Absolute peanuts in comparison.
Grifters have always existed and the most successful ones will opt to go with right wing views, even if I suspect a lot of them don't actually believe what they say. It's just a job.
GB News is also working hard to attack the current "Conservatives in name only" party that they want to steer further right (even though this lurch is what stopped me supporting the party anymore and no doubt many others).
DarloRich
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Yep - my glass house is better than the GB news glasshouse for the simple reason I haven't smeared excrement all over the panes of glass!
I used to go to their studio in Paddington to fix their HP laptopsThis is my major issue with it as well, it is the fact it has News in the title when it is not a news channel, otherwise all them Tory MPs would not be allowed to present it.
"Angry Gammon TV" would be a great name
it reminded me of the sitcom Drop The Dead Donkey... It's a Brexiteer's fantasy. It's like they are just finding something to be angry about. They seem to be scrabbling for content, especially with the likes of Nadine Dorries presenting at one point. I can only watch it in small doses 
Based on a recent Ofcom investigation - both sides presumably means both 'tory ministers' AND 'tory backbenchers'
There's also that show where they think it's jolly funny to put the person who isn't a tory or right wing politician in the corner of the room, like a social outcast
Still a very poor look to have two MPs interview someone who is more senior to them, both within the conservative party and in parliament. Ofcom acknowledged that too.
https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1682454892068196354 (and of course it's yet another example of a Tory MP and senior party official interviewing a Tory backbencher, this time while the Lib Dem sits in the corner)
Holy ****. I knew that Fox regularly had panels with 4 or 5 people and all but one having the same view, and talking over and insulting the singled out guest put there for 'balance' but this is LITERALLY putting someone in the corner like they're some sort of underclass or sub-human (which of course is what they want to do with migrants - refer to them in ways that makes people not see them as humans, which means you can then consider things like shooting at their boats and letting them drown - things actual people on Twitter have said and had people in power sometimes like or re-post).
More on that GB News "balance" - they seem to be heading towards the official endorsement of the Conservative Party
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1708586667429224543 - the poor quality audio is spectacularly on brand for GB News, lol
Some on twitter are suggesting it's on most of the TVs at conference too.
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1708586667429224543 - the poor quality audio is spectacularly on brand for GB News, lol
They also got named during the "Make Britain Grow Again" event, Liz Truss as the headliner, where Rees Mogg (who pointed out that he too was a GB News presenter) spoke. Farage was also there, though I'm not sure if he was there as a "journalist" or other purpose.
Some on twitter are suggesting it's on most of the TVs at conference too.
Just saw this thread, my only experience of GB news was one particularly boring morning a few months back. It was at the time of the Titanic sub sinking, first presenter starts talking about how he knows how cruel the sea can be as it got a bit choppy when him and his parents went on the QE2, the expert they had on at the time looked totally perplexed. Then a caller rang in to say he wished he could speak to the rescue team, as he's been thinking about it, and realised that what they need is a boat with a long cable with a hook on the end of it.
It was like watching Alan Partridge, except it was real life. The host taking over then started banging on about rough seas when she'd been sailing, as If that somehow added some meaning to the sinking.
Although in its defence, it is 100% truthful and not biased like the horrible mainstream media
It was like watching Alan Partridge, except it was real life. The host taking over then started banging on about rough seas when she'd been sailing, as If that somehow added some meaning to the sinking.
Although in its defence, it is 100% truthful and not biased like the horrible mainstream media
TheSmiths82
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I think we have to be careful, Patel . Much as though they would like it, I'm not sure that the Conservative Democratic Organisation is that representative of the Conservative party. For a start I'm not sure how democratic they actually are - the top bods (Cruddas, Greenhalgh, Patel et al) just seem to have appointed themselves and the next level appear to have been appointed by the top bods. Their big beef appears to be that Sunak was appointed by the MPs, not the wider electorate of members; I know the feeling, how come Truss was elected by Conservative members rather than the much wider electorate of voters nationwide? Sir Rees Mogg's sister (former UKIP) is also part of the team.
To me they are just another agitating group, backed by a number of talent-less politicians, exemplified by a figure head who appeared to make a lot of noise but achieved very little during the Johnson era. There are Conservatives, moderate ones, up and down the country who will much prefer the Sunak line, flawed as it may appear, to the catastrophe of Truss and the chaos that saw the end of Johnson
And looks like the police are investigating Wootton over the catfishing allegations
bylinetimes.com
Police Investigating Dan Wootton Over Allegations of 10-Year Catfishing Campaign Following Byline Times’ Special Investigation
Scotland Yard has announced that a man in his 40s is under a formal investigation. It comes three months after Byline Times handed a dossier of evidence about 40-year-old GB News star Dan Wootton to detectives
bylinetimes.com
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VauxhallandI
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Although during Covid it wasn’t and was one of very few places where one could hear an opinion that wasn’t the company line. But hey hoI assume you were being sarcastic
brad465
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Fox and Robinson both sacked from GB News (the former has also been arrested in connection to ULEZ camera damaging plans:
www.bbc.co.uk
Laurence Fox and Calvin Robinson sacked by GB News
The presenters are fired following a row over sexist comments Fox made about a female journalist.
www.bbc.co.uk
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