greatkingrat
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Are you referring to NR journey planners? I would be very surprised if the TfL planner didn't use the new names, and I expect things like Citymapper and Google Maps will as well.
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Lewisham2221
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I'm just disappointed that there isn't a Liney McLineface line...
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Underground and Overground lines should be renamed after famous Wombles.
I don't think it's that stupid, even before Overground existed a lot of people I knew referred to the NR routes as 'the overground'
In much the same way as London Transport/TfL over the years continues to take over london suburban rail services(Central, Northern, Jubilee, the planned Bakerloo extension, the Elizabeth Line, planned crossrail 2 etc have all done thid) the intention seems pretty clear, directly stated even that TfL wish to continue taking control of and integrating more services into their operations, I can easily imagine in 20 years time it'll be most of them, to just have 'Overground' then refer to the Orbital would be like Underground just referring to the Circle line
norbitonflyer
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Depends where you're coming from. From many large cities in England or Scotland, Wembley Central is far easier to get tonthan Wembley Park (change at Watford Junction, or bounce back at Euston).
The only time I went to Wembley Stadium, I went from work via Marylebone to Wembley Stadium station, and went home from Wembley Central to Richmond via Willesden Junction.
londiscape
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How about the Fe Line?
Mgameing123
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What about instead of the East London Line we call it the Brunel Line in honor of Sir Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
They are terrible names. It’s only because of those feminists we have those stupid names.
I think it was the way the transferring of the Lea Valley Lines and Romford - Upminster shuttle to TfL in 2015 was carried out that ruined the Overground brand. IMO they should have been branded as part of the TfL Rail brand as they connect with the future Crossrail. In fact I think TfL Rail would still make a solid brand for radial and cross-London services using mainline-sized trains, while Overground is used exclusively for the ‘orbital’ services that use the North or East London Lines.
Mgameing123
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Windrush is a big offender actually. Brunel Line would be more appropriate.
Elizabeth Line was entirely new and was named in honour of her majesty.
The Romford Upminster shuttle should just be a branch on the Elizabeth Line like how the Chesham shuttle to run.
Agreed, although I would officially call it “Elizabeth Line Shuttle” to signify the fact that trains don’t run through to the main Elizabeth Line. The colour could be the same though.
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Two reasons: firstly, his father was the engineer, and secondly, there's loads of things named after him. An entire university for one
He wasn't knighted either (his father was).
DynamicSpirit
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Sounds logical but would cause confusion in practice. Announcement: "Severe disruption on the Elizabeth Line Shuttle" and instantly half the people travelling on the actual Elizabeth Line (which is running fine) start worrying about how to replan their journeys
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Bantamzen
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You know being a grumpy Northern sod, I couldn't give a stuff what London calls it's lines. But now that the boy wonder Khan has spent millions of quid renaming some with these names, every Labour mayor in the country is going to want to do the same. I can't wait for Labour to come in and spend more time and effort in inclusive branding than actually improving services... 
No other mayor has control over rail services. And renaming these lines has been proposed pretty much since they were taken over in 2008. Is there any comparable situation elsewhere?You know being a grumpy Northern sod, I couldn't give a stuff what London calls it's lines. But now that the boy wonder Khan has spent millions of quid renaming some with these names, every Labour mayor in the country is going to want to do the same. I can't wait for Labour to come in and spend more time and effort in inclusive branding than actually improving services...
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I still say Brunel line would have been better, since he started the lines construction in the first place.
With only three stations, I doubt any disruption on the Romford - Upminster line would be a likely occurrence. Even so, would it really be worth announcing bearing in mind it would have minimal effect on the wider network.Sounds logical but would cause confusion in practice. Announcement: "Severe disruption on the Elizabeth Line Shuttle" and instantly half the people travelling on the actual Elizabeth Line (which is running fine) start worrying about how to replan their journeys
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The renaming of the various component lines of the Overground has been under consideration for quite a few years.
I think Brunel Line might be contentious with certain individuals who would object to it being named after the son of a bankrupt asylum seeker.
contrex
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I think at 71 I might qualify to be a 'gammon' (although I'm vegetarian?) and I have to say, I agree with you one hundred percent.
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I'm still not a fan of these names, but I know that my slight disgruntlement from 200 miles north isn't going to make any difference or do me any good, so instead I'm just going to mock them and vow to roll my eyes whenever I encounter them out in the wild...
A few points based on previous posts though. Firstly, I have never heard any person ever refer to the England men's football team as "The Lions". Even the well known "Three Lions" of the song isn't actually used as a direct nickname for the team itself (that would make no sense as there are eleven of them)- it's just a reference to the crest worn on the team's shirts. The Lionesses nickname for the women's team is just derived from that.
In any case I'm surprised that the Lioness Line name was chosen, as I thought there was a big kerfuffle about the England women's team not being "diverse enough"?(which by the way I feel I must remind several on here again, they didn't win).
None so blind as those who will not see, and none so wicked as those who are convinced they're on the side of good.
A few points based on previous posts though. Firstly, I have never heard any person ever refer to the England men's football team as "The Lions". Even the well known "Three Lions" of the song isn't actually used as a direct nickname for the team itself (that would make no sense as there are eleven of them)- it's just a reference to the crest worn on the team's shirts. The Lionesses nickname for the women's team is just derived from that.
In any case I'm surprised that the Lioness Line name was chosen, as I thought there was a big kerfuffle about the England women's team not being "diverse enough"?
Just be glad they didn't try to rename it "Y** Army HQ" (a nickname involving a slur for Jewish people, which some of Tottenham's Jewish support have attempted to "reclaim").
Yet you're happy to throw around a term of abuse based on people's appearance...
None so blind as those who will not see, and none so wicked as those who are convinced they're on the side of good.
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Totally agree. 'Line' should be removed and it should read 'Elizabeth', 'Weaver', 'Lioness' etc etc.
Consumers don't care. It's adding more words to maps than needed.
greatkingrat
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Maybe you should call the police and report the theft of the trophy, as the Lionesses certainly think they won.
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That’s true, but I can be pretty nerdy. In fact, most normal people I know try to keep me off the subject of railways
. That aside, I have no issue with the naming of the Elizabeth line, for the reasons I mentioned above.I just don’t think “the Suffragettes” or “the Lionesses” lines are ever going to achieve the same significance. Overall, as a Londoner, I’m extremely disappointed with the names selected, and I wish they’d just kept it as London Overground, perhaps with North London line and East London line made official to the public on maps.
No way. Harry doesn’t deserve it
Indeed. He really, really doesn’t. At least Pizza-Express-Andrew wasn’t on the list
.Isn’t the obvious one the West Coast Mane line
Very droll.
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I'm fairly certain they did!
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Apologies- I was having a "Mandela effect" moment and thinking of the World Cup during 2023.Explain this then:
At the entrance to Marylebone tube yesterday I noticed a large portrait monitor which listed all of the TfL lines as well behaved or naughty, but instead of a purple "Elizabeth Line" it was still showing a dark blue "TfL Rail". I find it unlikely that every such monitor on the Underground is doing that, but I also find it unlikely that the Marylebone one is configured individually to show that, so I'm none the wiser.
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