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What is the difference between the class 350 subclasses?

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Travelmonkey

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Prehaps I'm just unlucky but I keep finding myself on doubled up 350/2 units to LTV, I think I'm getting Stockholm syndrome to them units as on a quiet run they ain't too bad especially when I have a suitcase with me, although I am excited for the new units my local station is due to receive,
 

MCR247

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Am I right in thinking that the 350/1s have had their 3rd rail pickup shoes removed, so that they can only currently work on 25kV overhead?

They're isolated AFAIK. They still have the equipment, given that there are still differences in the bogies between the 350/1s and other 350s.

I've been searching for recent photos of 350/1s and it looks like they still have the beams for 3rd rail shoes, but the actual pickup shoes are now absent.
I’m sure I remember a spirited debate on here about whether the shoes were just isolated or whether they were removed and stored in a cupboard in Northampton depot. Saying that, I can’t remember how it ended :lol:
 

swt_passenger

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I've been searching for recent photos of 350/1s and it looks like they still have the beams for 3rd rail shoes, but the actual pickup shoes are now absent.
You cannot easily see them in their raised position, I took a couple of photos only a few years ago and the shoes and arms were still fitted but very difficult to see. They’re not visible looking from the side, you have to look from above, ie behind the shoe beam..
 

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Prehaps I'm just unlucky but I keep finding myself on doubled up 350/2 units to LTV, I think I'm getting Stockholm syndrome to them units as on a quiet run they ain't too bad especially when I have a suitcase with me, although I am excited for the new units my local station is due to receive,

I know what you mean, I'm seeing too many double 350/2 sets on the Trent Valley at the moment...

I'm actually starting to develop a strange hatred of them, just something simple like adding seat back tables to the airline seats would make them a much nicer unit to travel on, they are used on journeys of over two hours and you don't even have anywhere to place a cup of tea or a sandwich...

I can't wait to see the back of them.
 

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I doubt GWR would need them, they have enough commuter trains, some of the excess has gone to GTR.
Fit them with batteries and 3rd rail plus with more electrification around Bristol they'd be good for Cardiff to Portsmouth hbr services but would need the seats layout changed
 

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You cannot easily see them in their raised position, I took a couple of photos only a few years ago and the shoes and arms were still fitted but very difficult to see. They’re not visible looking from the side, you have to look from above, ie behind the shoe beam..
Thanks for that. Next time I'm at Stafford I'll take a good look at one.
 

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