dangie
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I think the BBC’s ethos is ‘Good news is bad, but bad news is good’.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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I wonder if the "Points of View" BBC programme is still running, as that allowed viewer comments about BBC TV perceived annoying matters.
I will sign off as "Offended of Orpington" whilst wondering what Mrs Trellis from North Wales thinks of the matter in hand......
I will sign off as "Offended of Orpington" whilst wondering what Mrs Trellis from North Wales thinks of the matter in hand......
They have "Newswatch" at some point around the weekend on the News Channel. Not sure if it makes it onto Breakfast on the main Channel or not, but that is quite similar to the old Points of View, but focused purely on the news coverage and frequently has criticism of their coverage of Royal events - I seem to recall the "the latest news from the hospital is that there is no news" getting quite a few complaints etc.
Busaholic
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Watch it, mate, I genuinely used that strapline in a satirical letter to the Orpington and Kentish Times when I briefly co-owned a business in that town in the 1980s - they even published it!I will sign off as "Offended of Orpington" whilst wondering what Mrs Trellis from North Wales thinks of the matter in hand......
spyinthesky
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Nobody has mentioned the editing out of the excess fingers yet
70014IronDuke
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Incorrect. The public, by and large, love celebrity gossip. The media, by and large, then follow. It's a continual 'dumbing down' spiral. (Apoligies, I detest the expression 'dumbing down' - it's an insult to dumb people - but it's the easiest term to use.)
And if the Sun or Mail had put "MP defects to Farage" or "Haiti on the brink of Civil War" on their front page, how many sales and hits do you think they'd have got today?
To paraphrase a certain famous headline in one such paper: It's the public wot done it!
Yeah, difficult one. When in the dark room printing steam loco photos, I certainly darkened the smoke from locos to enhance the image. Were the photo for a news report, ie supposedly reporting 'facts', then arguably that should not be done. It's a fine line representing 'reality'.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Which one in the photo has more fingers than they should have. Is it a genetic trait?
birchesgreen
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Something to do with AI generated photos notoriously having weird fingers (though i think they are improving now)?
brad465
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Either way, the solution is the same: introduce widespread education of critical thinking skills into society.
I wonder if the "Points of View" BBC programme is still running, as that allowed viewer comments about BBC TV perceived annoying matters.
I will sign off as "Offended of Orpington" whilst wondering what Mrs Trellis from North Wales thinks of the matter in hand......
I used to love that show ! I had completely forgotten about it's existence
GRALISTAIR
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100% - absolutely
At least the digital manipulation (however imcompetent) is more interesting than the original "news" of the release of the image — so important that it had to figure on each hourly R4 news summary on Sunday as well as getting the usual exaggerated TV coverage. Do we really pay a licence fee to support this royalist propaganda machine?
75A
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Regretably we do, if we like it or not.
Gloster
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The trouble for the BBC is that if they don’t make a major thing of it, like just about every other media outlet, the following day’s Mail/Telegraph/Sun’s front pages will be full of accusations that the BBC is unpatriotic/traitorous by not being interested in the Royals, is stuck up by not covering matters that the public is interested in or is full of lefties who only want to destroy the Royals. The tabloids lead the charge and then condemn others for following them. And it provides a distraction from yet another Conservative embarrassment.
uglymonkey
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It's not new either, Stalin used to "airbrush" people he had fallen out with out of photos with him.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Perhaps this thread should have an attached poll so website members could say the matter was in a range of options "from important to meaningless triviality"
3141
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One thing that amazes me is that some news organisations employ people to pore over photos in the hope of finding evidence that will enable them to say "Look, this photo has been manipulated. Her hand isn't in line with her jumper. Her zip doesn't line up with her buttons."
And then everyone is supposed to get excited about it, so that (for example) we have this thread here discussing whether such drivel matters.
Another instance is the way they go back through the social media accounts of somebody who's recently been appointed to some position or other to find out whether in 2005 they said "I don't like the taste of curry" and can therefore be accused of hate crime.
And then everyone is supposed to get excited about it, so that (for example) we have this thread here discussing whether such drivel matters.
Another instance is the way they go back through the social media accounts of somebody who's recently been appointed to some position or other to find out whether in 2005 they said "I don't like the taste of curry" and can therefore be accused of hate crime.
Gloster
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I suspect that nowadays, because photoshopping of photos is so prevalent, most journalists and editors are automatically in the habit of looking at photos with half an eye for a bit of ’shopping whenever they look at them. Previously, not only was there much less ’shopping, but only the picture editors really had an eye for small inconsistencies: nowadays everyone has.
Bevan Price
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The original photo may no longer exist if she saved the edited file without changing the filename.
To me, it is all a fuss about nothing.
To me, it is all a fuss about nothing.
Peter Mugridge
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Makes you wonder exactly what bad news the Government slipped out yesterday...
brad465
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The tory donor racism row, although that's spilled over into today and is taking greater prominence over the royal news, so if they tried to suppress it, it didn't work.
londonbridge
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So to sum up: Husband takes family photo. Wife makes sone minor photoshop adjustments because they’re not happy with it. Complete non-story and nobody else’s business. Seriously, who the hell cares??
Not quite .....
Ashley Hill
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OK,so I got it wrong. They`ve edited him in
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brad465
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"I mean that is what I'd describe as me in that photo, but what we can't be certain of is whether or not that's my hand."OK,so I got it wrong. They`ve edited him in
Can't believe they have done that!
Don't subscribe any more, should do.
Strange story this as many normal people have not heard all the conspiracy theories that preceded this photo. So the photo story in itself seems like a big overreaction but the photo was released to quell some of the conspiracy stories which have been gaining momentum and the editing thing has just made it worse
With papers like the mirror suddenly doing articles on a random minor royal that William has allegedly been having an affair with then the momentum is increasing and increasing. And Kensington palace seem to keep making it worse by releasing grainy photos of Kate etc
With papers like the mirror suddenly doing articles on a random minor royal that William has allegedly been having an affair with then the momentum is increasing and increasing. And Kensington palace seem to keep making it worse by releasing grainy photos of Kate etc
brad465
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I'm sure they do plenty, but they will certainly get the subjects' consent first or else they'll be on the wrong end of a libel case (I imagine they get professional editors to do it as well while this photo was clearly an amateur job).'Newspapers' Editors and their photographers never edit images do they!
While I think this shouldn't be a big story, the Royals involved only have themselves to blame here for failing to spot the impacts this would have while loads of speculation around Kate's health existed. Had they released an undoctored photo, or no photo at all, the impact would have been less. Maybe they'll learn for future cases though.
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Typical Daily Fail hypocrisy, yesterday Sarah Vine says William and Kate “need to come clean about what’s REALLY going on”, today Bel Mooney says the public reaction is a cynical attempt to force them to reveal what the surgery was for and calls for them to be left alone….