RailWonderer
Established Member
This debate feeds into the idea Britain shuns personal responsibility. Lowering speeds should not be done to excuse personal responsibility. Pedestrians know where to cross and crossing a road outside a designated crossing is a personal risk you take. I've seen more people cross roads anywhere they feel like it in 20mph areas in Surrey because they know cars are going slower, so cars are slowing to even 5/10mph to let these idiots pass. All this system does is increase selfishness.
Another example, railways are much less fenced in Europe, because people know they shouldn't cross. Even if railways are property and roads are public access there is still a risk in crossing either, in fact more on roads than on railways, so why should railways need to be fenced but not roads? Britain is becoming a complaining sueing culture like the US and because councils are scared of lawyers and bad press they capitulate to idiots. This isn't even about 'road safety' as much as it is about treating people like toddlers. Why can't people accept personal responsibility anymore?
20mph is nannying.
Another example, railways are much less fenced in Europe, because people know they shouldn't cross. Even if railways are property and roads are public access there is still a risk in crossing either, in fact more on roads than on railways, so why should railways need to be fenced but not roads? Britain is becoming a complaining sueing culture like the US and because councils are scared of lawyers and bad press they capitulate to idiots. This isn't even about 'road safety' as much as it is about treating people like toddlers. Why can't people accept personal responsibility anymore?
20mph is nannying.