2024 Intercity Charters

[31160]

Well the 47 and push pull set are mentioned in October going to the far north lines, apart from that nowt concrete as yet

 

[50002Superb]

D213 should be working a tour from Crewe to Inverness on Saturday 24th February 2024 and then return the next day. Yet to be announced but should be up on the website in due course.

The timings for this are now on RTT:

Realtime Trains | 1Z13 0812 Crewe to Inverness | 24/02/2024

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Realtime Trains | 5Z13 1717 Inverness to Inverness T.C. | 24/02/2024

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Realtime Trains | 3Z14 0833 Inverness T.C. to Inverness | 25/02/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Z14 0833 departure from Inverness T.C. to Inverness on 25/02/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Realtime Trains | 1Z14 0900 Inverness to Crewe | 25/02/2024

Real-time train running information for 1Z14 0900 departure from Inverness to Crewe on 25/02/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[31160]

In regards to the Push Pull set, either with 47712 or the very obviously planned 37409, what other areas do people think it could go to for the weekend, obvious ones for the 47 I would guess at the South West say doing Newquay,St Ives Falmouth one one day and Exmouth and possibly Barnstaple on the Sunday I think they would have to be done early before the timetabled services start but for me I would go for Crewe to Carmarthen via Chester, Wrexham, Salop, Central Wales line and Llanelli. Reverse there and then off to Fishguard and back to Swansea via Carmarthen avoided, on Sunday do Pembroke and Milford and back to Crewe via Barry Town and the Marches. But as I say the possibilities are endless

 

[MiNi]

Like you say the possibilities are endless. Any of your suggestions seen doable to me. The shove set could do a southern region jaunt also.

 

[12LDA28C]

In regards to the Push Pull set, either with 47712 or the very obviously planned 37409, what other areas do people think it could go to for the weekend, obvious ones for the 47 I would guess at the South West say doing Newquay,St Ives Falmouth one one day and Exmouth and possibly Barnstaple on the Sunday I think they would have to be done early before the timetabled services start but for me I would go for Crewe to Carmarthen via Chester, Wrexham, Salop, Central Wales line and Llanelli. Reverse there and then off to Fishguard and back to Swansea via Carmarthen avoided, on Sunday do Pembroke and Milford and back to Crewe via Barry Town and the Marches. But as I say the possibilities are endless

You say 'the very obviously planned' 37409 but since the 37 won't be able to provide ETS to the whole of the DBSO set, they'll have to knock a coach or two out which might make the running of such a tour uneconomical.

 

[D6130]

Like you say the possibilities are endless. Any of your suggestions seen doable to me. The shove set could do a southern region jaunt also.

Bear in mind that Mark 3 stock is banned from large parts of the former Southern Region due to restricted clearances.

 

[50002Superb]

I’d suggest exhausting the Northern opps first then repaint the whole set into Network South East (I appreciate that the DBSO rake was never originally like that but the 47 was) and do some Southern trips.

 

[31160]

You say 'the very obviously planned' 37409 but since the 37 won't be able to provide ETS to the whole of the DBSO set, they'll have to knock a coach or two out which might make the running of such a tour uneconomical.

Would it work if they were MK2 air cons instead of the MK3s? I only ask as that would also ok it for the southern region as well

 

[12LDA28C]

Would it work if they were MK2 air cons instead of the MK3s? I only ask as that would also ok it for the southern region as well

The DBSO set of course is Mk3s so using a ScotRail-livery 37 on a different rake would reduce the impact somewhat. And there are plenty of places on the Southern where Mk3s are not banned.

I’d suggest exhausting the Northern opps first then repaint the whole set into Network South East (I appreciate that the DBSO rake was never originally like that but the 47 was) and do some Southern trips.

I'd suggest that is not going to happen.

 

[43096]

You say 'the very obviously planned' 37409 but since the 37 won't be able to provide ETS to the whole of the DBSO set, they'll have to knock a coach or two out which might make the running of such a tour uneconomical.

Nothing to stop them from putting a generator van in the set, providing it is air braked and has through RCH jumper cables.

 

[12LDA28C]

Nothing to stop them from putting a generator van in the set, providing it is air braked and has through RCH jumper cables.

Indeed although adding another coach length with little or no passenger accommodation would also impact on a tour's profitability.

 

[JonathanH]

Bear in mind that Mark 3 stock is banned from large parts of the former Southern Region due to restricted clearances.

A lot more of the South East got clearance for Mark 3s in recent times so that Steam Dreams could use the Intercity set. In some cases, it may just be a matter of applying for clearance, although I acknowledge there would still be places that are out of bounds.

 

[50002Superb]

The DBSO set of course is Mk3s so using a ScotRail-livery 37 on a different rake would reduce the impact somewhat. And there are plenty of places on the Southern where Mk3s are not banned.



I'd suggest that is not going to happen.

Sure, I was just thinking of something fun and interesting, it makes life a little brighter.

 

[Rhysdabeast]

Had a really good journey up to Inverness today on 'The Whistling Highlander', D213 performed outstandingly all of the way, didn't skip a beat. Some pictures from Crewe, Carlisle and Inverness

 

[Iskra]

Very nice, that’s travelling in style. When did the ends go full yellow?

 

[12LDA28C]

Very nice, that’s travelling in style. When did the ends go full yellow?

At least a year ago

 

[Rhysdabeast]

Very nice, that’s travelling in style. When did the ends go full yellow?

Looking back at Facebook, it has been exactly a year since they revealed the ends had been painted yellow

 

[31160]

New charter up for booking
10th August Crewe to Carlisle class 50, Carlisle to Preston via Appleby and Blackburn class 45, Preston to Preston via Manchester Victoria class 37s. Preston to Preston via Blackburn and Carnforth class 40, back to Crewe class 20s £159

 

[31160]

New charter up for booking
10th August Crewe to Carlisle class 50, Carlisle to Preston via Appleby and Blackburn class 45, Preston to Preston via Manchester Victoria class 37s. Preston to Preston via Blackburn and Carnforth class 40, back to Crewe class 20s £159

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[Iskra]

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First tour with 20’s this year, so that’s me booked on!

 

[Mag_seven]

Rather disappointingly they did nothing with 87002 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Weaver Jn - Glasgow Electrification in May. An opportunity missed IMHO.

 

[31160]

I'm just surprised 55022 still isn't down to do anything, as far as I know the last time it worked it did the full run OK but that was a long time ago now

 

[matt]

I'm just surprised 55022 still isn't down to do anything, as far as I know the last time it worked it did the full run OK but that was a long time ago now

I believe it's stopped for fitting of in cab signalling hence the use of 50050

 

[Whistler40145]

Has 50050 worked anything yet?

 

[12LDA28C]

I'm just surprised 55022 still isn't down to do anything, as far as I know the last time it worked it did the full run OK but that was a long time ago now

It's currently having ETCS fitted at huge expense so you won't see it in traffic for a while yet

Has 50050 worked anything yet?

Not for LSL, no.

 

[Rail Quest]

10th August Crewe to Carlisle class 50, Carlisle to Preston via Appleby and Blackburn class 45, Preston to Preston via Manchester Victoria class 37s. Preston to Preston via Blackburn and Carnforth class 40, back to Crewe class 20s £159

Now that's what I call an enthusiast tour!! This'll be a good one to chase around the north west

 

[Kite159]

Agreed there, that is a decent tour for a day trip with various locos. Will be booking onto that. Thankfully my usual place in Crewe had one room left which is handy considering I might not get to Crewe until 11pm (20;46 LNR).

 

[sprinterguy]

Blimey, that's a lot of money to spend to keep ending up in Preston all day.

I note that the blurb describes the journey as "attacking the ‘long drag’ via Ais Gill (356m above sea level), Blea Moor and Batty Moss Viaduct (Ribblehead)". It's not really an attack of the gradient when it's being done in the downhill direction, is it? More of a controlled trundle with a hand on the brake lever.

 

[Iskra]

Blimey, that's a lot of money to spend to keep ending up in Preston all day.

I note that the blurb describes the journey as "attacking the ‘long drag’ via Ais Gill (356m above sea level), Blea Moor and Batty Moss Viaduct (Ribblehead)". It's not really an attack of the gradient when it's being done in the downhill direction, is it? More of a controlled trundle with a hand on the brake lever.

It’s cheaper in first class than UK railtours recent tour is in standard class and takes in the WCML North, Settle/Carlisle, Bentham Line and Clitheroe-Hellifield (all decent, scenic routes) and has 7 historic locomotives on it, with no modern or bland filler loco’s. Rarely, will you find anything as good value as that on the network!

 

[sprinterguy]

It’s cheaper in first class than UK railtours recent tour is in standard class and takes in the WCML North, Settle/Carlisle, Bentham Line and Clitheroe-Hellifield (all decent, scenic routes) and has 7 historic locomotives on it, with no modern or bland filler loco’s. Rarely, will you find anything as good value as that on the network!

Fair play, and not to denigrate anyone's enthusiasm for this, but it's still equivalent to the accommodation cost of a weekend away. My primary criteria for railtours is that they spend a meaningful amount of time at a worthwhile* destination.

*By which I mean, plenty of pubs.