• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

4 wheel wagons still in use

Status
Not open for further replies.

tjlrailblue

Member
Joined
20 Sep 2013
Messages
118
Which 4 wheel wagons are still in use?

I see that MEAs are used to carry sand

Also i have seen MFAs used for ballast and spoil

Are TTAs still used for aviation fuel? Anything else use them?

What is the code for the covered vans on Boston steel trains that are 4 wheel?

Presume still quite a few other 4 wheel wagons about but obviously far less common nowadays.

What other types are still going?


Tim
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Ash Bridge

Established Member
Joined
17 Mar 2014
Messages
4,141
Location
Stockport
Which 4 wheel wagons are still in use?

I see that MEAs are used to carry sand

Also i have seen MFAs used for ballast and spoil

Are TTAs still used for aviation fuel? Anything else use them?

What is the code for the covered vans on Boston steel trains that are 4 wheel?

Presume still quite a few other 4 wheel wagons about but obviously far less common nowadays.

What other types are still going?


Tim

CDA China clay hoppers in Cornwall.
 

RichmondCommu

Established Member
Joined
23 Feb 2010
Messages
6,906
Location
Richmond, London
I often see four wheel long wheel base Cargo Waggons at Willesden whilst on their way to and from the West Midlands carrying mineral water to and from France. There are also four wheel cement bulk carriers still running around and these can often be seen at St Pancras Church Yard sidings.
 

fgwrich

Established Member
Joined
15 Apr 2009
Messages
9,789
Location
Hampshire
There's a handful of HEA Hoppers still in use by DBS on flows such as aggregate from Southampton Docks to Glasgow for B&Q. A handful of MEAs as you say still exist in occasional service too, along with plenty of MFA Coalfish, MTA, OBA, VBA and VDA remain in use for departmental and MOD use as well as the already mentioned CDAs still trundling around Cornwall. Don't think any TEA tanks are in use anymore following the cessation of the Fawley tanks, but there are at least two variations of the "CargoWaggen"s out there and the STVA Car Carrying wagons are also 4 wheeled.
 
Last edited:

ash39

Established Member
Joined
8 Feb 2012
Messages
1,506
PGAs on the Middleton Towers sand are 4 wheeled.
 

jimm

Established Member
Joined
6 Apr 2012
Messages
5,250
There are still a good few VGA vans in use on MoD trains operated by DB Schenker, which are a frequent sight at Didcot en route to and from the likes of Bicester and Kineton.

Freightliner is using TTAs to transport diesel to Ipswich fuelling point from Lindsey refinery. Scroll down to the pictures from Long Marston and Honeybourne taken June 15 at this link, captions contain info on the traffic http://petertandy.co.uk/class66.htm

The sliding hood steel carriers used from Boston Docks and on other flows such as South Wales to Round Oak may be short but have bogies due to the weight of the loads that they carry. TOPS classification is IHA, under the UIC system they are Sfhimmns

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8209/8188116449_6d80e5703c_b.jpg
 

andypops

Member
Joined
31 Mar 2011
Messages
169
Also forgetting the SSA / POAs too - although even after being re-bodied a few years ago they are now in rag order.
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
17,786
Location
East Anglia
There seem less & less on the Mountsorrel LaFarge workings into East Anglia in the last few months. Only a couple on the Trowse today. As mentioned by ash39, still a full trainload on the WBB Minerals.
 
Last edited:

SpacePhoenix

Established Member
Joined
18 Mar 2014
Messages
5,491
Don't know if any still exist but the LPG tankers that went along the SWML I think where four wheel
 

RichJF

Member
Joined
2 Nov 2012
Messages
1,139
Location
South London or Sussex
Travelling through London Bridge while the works are on; you see a variety of 4 wheel wagons attached to the rear of the ballast/sleeper trains.
They are usually in EWS maroon/yellow livery with yellow axle covers.

I think these are the MTA & OBA series of wagons.
I sometimes see some in service behind 73's at Tonbridge when I'm around there.
 

tjlrailblue

Member
Joined
20 Sep 2013
Messages
118
saw some vga vans used as barriers i think on a video on youtube

cheers for replies anyway. more still around than I thought!

Tim
 

GB

Established Member
Joined
16 Nov 2008
Messages
6,468
Location
Somewhere
Yes and no. IPA car carriers are four wheelers, but as they are also 'quad' wagons, they are on the one hand four wheelers and on the other 16 wheelers. 'One' wagon is actually made up of four, semi permanently coupled together. They are either the double deck cartics or the ones used on the Jaguar/Landrover traffic with the canvas sided 'hood'.

Then, just to confuse matters, you also have the open twin cartics for carrying vans etc, which again are semi permanently coupled and are either two four wheelers or one eight wheeler, depending on how you view them! On the outer ends they have conventional buffers and draw gear, but in between individual four wheelers in the quad, they only have one buffer on opposing corners.

Lol, I knew someone would be along with that technicality:lol:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top