Shame. Nobody would consider scrapping a steam loco and there's several no-hopers rusting away around the country.
Apart from those from the Barry 10 cannibalised to create reproductions and a pannier at the SVR there can't be that many. And I don't mean industrials.Hyperbole, plenty of steam locomotives have been scrapped following preservation. It's a fact of life that not everything can be saved.
42859 appears to have been lost now, other than a few parts. The boiler has certainly gone, and there is a great deal of speculation about what actually remains & where the parts are.Apart from those from the Barry 10 cannibalised to create reproductions and a pannier at the SVR there can't be that many. And I don't mean industrials.
Why? It’s their money to do what they want with.Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
Is it? At what point does a restoration project become a replication project anyway?Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
You can’t tell people what to spend their hard earned cash on though.Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
Exactly. There won't be any new build Peaks - There's enough of those, just. Any new build locos are of long scrapped locos. The LMS1000 project is building up the most suitable parts it requires including utilising the base of a 58 (because they are similar, not because of the unavailability of the bits from the peak).Why? It’s their money to do what they want with.
45015 was an utter wreck: it should have been scrapped when EWS sold it.
One man's meat is another man's poison...Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
Completely different situation as the new builds are all of classes of which there were no original survivors. In this instance there are 11 45s in preservation, all in far better condition than 45015.Its a shame that people will throw money into building new build reproductions whilst genuine locos are left to rot or scrapped.
Any steam loco stored for over 50 years will need a new boiler and many other parts before it can work again.42859 appears to have been lost now, other than a few parts. The boiler has certainly gone, and there is a great deal of speculation about what actually remains & where the parts are.
Oldest survivor, if that counts for anything. And definitely special, but maybe not for good reasons.At least there are plenty of preserved peaks and 45015 wasn’t exactly unique or special.
Oldest survivor, if that counts for anything. And definitely special, but maybe not for good reasons.
With my hypothetical lottery winnings I’d have preserved it ‘as is’ , then shipped it around to the various galas as a star attraction. It’d definitely pull in the crowds.
If we're talking hypotheticals, assuming someone did have money to burn and was determined to restore 45015 to a state where it could be mainline certified, how much of the original loco would actually be left?Obviously completely hypothetically (and this might be better in the speculative ideas section I guess), if you'd won £50m on the lottery and wanted to get it sorted, where would you start? Could you still get all the bits that have been taken over the years, would you just dismantle the thing, refurbish what you could, replace the rusty metal with new, could you realistically get it mainline re-certified or at best are you looking at a trundle up and down a preserved line. I guess the first issue would be finding somewhere to work on a beast that size......
Obviously completely hypothetically (and this might be better in the speculative ideas section I guess), if you'd won £50m on the lottery and wanted to get it sorted, where would you start? Could you still get all the bits that have been taken over the years, would you just dismantle the thing, refurbish what you could, replace the rusty metal with new, could you realistically get it mainline re-certified or at best are you looking at a trundle up and down a preserved line. I guess the first issue would be finding somewhere to work on a beast that size......
Oldest survivor, if that counts for anything. And definitely special, but maybe not for good reasons.